Isn't God Awesome? (page 11)

Vinny

Satans helper says:..."your arguement is fatuous, a star is a very large hydrogen bomb - a hydrogen bomb that creates other more dense elements through nucleur fusion.
What's that sound? it must be your head exploding as your arguement crashes around your ears"

*******You need to learn to spell and to learn to make sense. Cause both LACK above.

What BURIES ATHEISTS is that you say all things just happened by themselves, with no designer whatsoever involved. By series of random chances. All from nothing.

Huge HUGE problem ATHEISTS.

So then how did Life, earth with universe get here?

I say An Intelligent Designer made it. I do not know how he made it... and do not care really. You say you have no clue, but somehow they all formed by themselves, from nothing at all.

Big difference folks.

So then, how did red vette in woods with gas and keys get there again?

I say, Chevy made it, but I have no clue how... and don't care really.

You say, I have no clue how, but it somehow formed all by itself. Big difference and completely ignorant, foolish laughable nonsense.

That is why I put the Red Vette on your laps in the very beginning.

It could be be computer instead. Is all the same to me.

The chances of that red vette, or this apple computer coming together ALL BY THEMSELVES is NILL. The more complex the feature the more intelligence is needed.

Like I have said many times, the more complex the feature, the more you need intelligence behind the cause.

A little baby can throw paint on a canvass. But look at a master's painting, and then you know without a doubt there was something special behind that work of art. Look at the more amazing earth with an array of wonderful things. Sunsets that make your jaw drop. Food that is wonderful to smell and taste. Beautiful turquoise waters and a white sandy beach with coconut trees are an exquisite sight for me. Mountains and valley and waterfalls and beautiful forests and flowers on and on... they reflect the hand of an amazing Supreme Artist. At least for me they do as well as 95 percent of the human population.

All the universe is in amazing order. The human body is simply incredible. Cut youself and it can heal itself. Just get the food and enjoy eating it, the body does the rest for you by breaking it down and using it for living. Want kids? You know what to do. But then amazing things happen to make that little one into a human being. We love other people. We have a conscience. We all have some built in desire to search for and worship something. We speculate and contemplate many things many times.

There are just too many things to ever believe that these just happened by some series of chances and lot's of luck making everything we see today. Just NO WAY that can happen.

Sorry but atheists really have not done very good at all here.

Is why Albert Einstein was not an atheist as well. Is why he said "God does not play dice with the universe".

Yet you want us to believe that the far more complex universe, earth, life including the human brain just happend this same way BY LOTS OF LUCK.

Sorry to tell it to you how it is.

Perry

Spend a week reading these posts and come back again Vinny

Hillary,

You pulled the same disappearing act on me several weeks ago when you said that you would "posit" your souurce of the knowledge of good and bad in something called "social conditioning" .

If you really believe that social conditioning is a reliable source for morality, why did you not answer all of the serious questions that this position begs? I mean you do want to continue to instruct people as you did in your former elder days right?

Vinny

Hilary who??

She wiffed and now runs away whining for vinny to find her posts. She says my arguments were debunked already, but then she does not show where, how or anything else.

So who's hilary??

Vinny

Lore says:..."So these explosions don't form cities, instead they do EXACTLY what the big bang theory says they should."

This big BANG also just happened to result in a variety of LIVING THINGS on this earth, with ITS OWN amazingly complex varieties of different systems such as digestive, circulatory, reproductive, elimination, immune, neurological etc etc...

Perry

So how does the holy spirit know the difference between right and wrong?

Here we reach what really is the bottom line for you isn't it? This is the "money shot."I suspect it is the same for all atheists. It's a control issue isn't it? You just can't bring yourself to believe that the Creator truly loves you, is vastly greater than you, and would totally respect your person and free will.

Don't feel bad, no one else could possibly know that in the beginning either. If you ask him he'll manuever you into a position where you could believe. He did it with me and millions of other folks who have asked. If you would just walk with him a while you'd see the masterful way in which He slowly changes your desires into that which brings maximum freedom, harmony, peace and many other things. You already know right from wrong to a great extent, but cannot do it. He both enlightens and makes possible. It is the total opposite of the WT experience I swear!

The self-existing one is also self-knowing. He wouldn't be much of a God otherwise would he?

Perry

Vinny,

Thank you VERY MUCH for your arguments on this thread.

Vinny

You are welcome, Perry.

Feel free to e-mail me whenever things get out of hand over here. I have been spending much more time exposing the JW's as of late.

Plus, been back on track with my own biz workload.

[email protected]

Take care.

All the best,

Vinny

Satans little helper

well done, you spotted a couple of spelling mistakes. I'm deeply impressed, this obviously points to us being created by the flying spaghetti monster.

So who created the spaghetti monster?

Nuclear fusion creates dense elements from hydrogen, just as the big bang theory predicts.

I think that Creationists have had a hard time on this thread precisely because of your ill thought out ramblings.

Perry

SatanLH wrote:

So who created the spaghetti monster?

This question has been already answered on this thread and is infinitely more plausible than a something from nothing tautology. Here's a question for you which has also already been asked but you failed to accurately address:

Cause and Effect accounts for your world view right? If time always existed, then it is there in infinite past right? The future has not always existed as you indicated in your previous post. What accounts for the future in your worldview since for each moment present there is another one in infinite past.

Also, can you test an infinite digression of cause and effect events? I mean you only believe in things you can test right? Isn't that what empiricists do? They live in a puritanical world of only verifiable facts right?

Vinny

Nuclear Fusion is the process powering the Sun and stars. In the core of the Sun, at temperatures of 10-15 million Kelvin, Hydrogen is converted to Helium by fusion - providing enough energy to keep the Sun burning - and to sustain life on Earth.

So This proves NOTHING. The Creator that DESIGNED the universe obviously created PROCESSES that allow these many things to exist and work. What man has termed nuclear fusion then, is such a process, if true, that allows these features to continue, which in turn is NEEDED for life on the earth to exist.

There are many other kinds of processes as well. Photosynthesis being another. MANY THOUSANDS of others as well.

These do NOTHING to prove that God does not or cannot exist at all.

He simply created such amazing processes along with the universe, earth and life upon the earth.

Should be nothing difficult to comprehend about that.

Will check back in later this week.

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