Isn't God Awesome?

by Perry 450 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Perry
    Perry

    Narkissos wrote:

    I hear a very similar [to the WT] dissonance in your words.

    Apparently, you played an active leadership role in the denying of Christ at the French bethel and then you carry on a leadership role on this board hurling insults at God. Sounds like the same job to me.

    I am still waiting for you to describe a world in which God could have created that was both Free and without the possibility of evil. This should be easy for you to do since you feel so confident in your past denunciations of God. Please explain in detail the kind of world that you imagine could have been created.

    On a previous thread I explained the practical, moral, and just foundations for a Savior. You know what you did? You hinted that I had a sexual dysfunction problem. This time try to say something intelligent or confine yourself to trading thoughts with those that mentioned crotch hair and vomit in response to a beautiful slideshow.

  • Perry
    Perry

    Good Night. I'm turning in too.

  • diamondblue1974
    diamondblue1974

    I will sum it up in the words of one of my most favourite actors.

    MILTON: ... Guilt is like a bag of fucking bricks. All you gotta is set it down... Who are you carrying all those bricks for anyway? God? Is that it? God? Well I tell you. Let me give you a little inside information about God. God likes to watch. He's a prankster. Think about it. He gives man instincts. He gives you this extraordinary gift and then what does he do? I swear, for his own amusement, his own private cosmic gag reel he sets the rules in opposition. It's the goof of all time. Look but don't touch. Touch but don't taste. Taste but don't swallow. And while you're jumping on one foot to the next, what is he doing? He's laughing his sick fucking ass off. He's a tightass. He's a sadist. He's an absentee-landlord! Worship that? Never!

    God (in the Old Testament and Christian sense) is not awesome; hes a genocidal maniac; supports incest; hes misogynistic and chauvinistic; hes a war mongering, self obsessed god that has no ounce of compassion for his 'alleged' creation. How is he awesome?

    In the words of a friend of mine "Gods a c**t".

    Other gods I do not have a problem with - but this one, nah...would sooner die than live in his 'new system'.

    Gary

  • Narkissos
    Narkissos

    Huh... Perry? Are you sure you're not confusing me with someone else?

  • Abaddon
    Abaddon

    Vinny

    What BURIES ATHEISTS is that you say all things just happened ... By series of random chances...

    And by your answers you show you understand nothing of the theory of evolution. You saying evolutionists believe this is like me saying that you believe god is made of cheese; it's a straw man.

    As always, I find the attitude taken by hard-core literalistic fundamentalists best described by the phrase "Omne ignotum pro magnifico est".

    (What people are ignorent seems magnificent/We have great notions of everything unknown/All things unknown seem grand )

    By their arguments they show themselves ignorent of the science they dismiss as wrong.

    By their attitudes they show themselves guilty of the conceit that they are somehow possessing a special knowledge of god.

    Yet they have nothing to prove this except their own words, or as often is the case, someone else's words they copy and paste.

    They are more concerned with other people accepting their version of god than they are about any genuine exploration of the divine.

    They actually blaspheme against the idea of god they hold by insisting it made the world the same way a bronze age goatherd described, rather than as the ample evidence around us demonstrates, as if god could not do it any way it wished.

    They have a formulaic faith that ultimately only seeks to sanctify themselves.

    Sad really...

  • Crumpet
    Crumpet
    In the words of a friend of mine "Gods a c**t".

    Thanks mate! LOL! I should get a t-shirt made up for that really.

  • hillary_step
    hillary_step

    Perry and Vinny,

    You pulled the same disappearing act on me several weeks ago when you said that you would "posit" your souurce of the knowledge of good and bad in something called "social conditioning" .

    Perhaps I realized the futlilty of trying to debate with a person whose inclination to reasoning is barely above primary school level. I mean this seriously Perry. As it is, please show me where I agreed to do the above Perry.

    Try hard to imagine a person debating quantum physics with a nine year old child and you will understand why it is neccessary for both yourself and Vinny to grasp even a primitive understanding of your subject before you can stop embarrassing yourself in debate. Posting endlessly in topics that are actually beyond your intellectual grasp at present, and I speak for the both of you, is not gaining you any credibility.

    That is why I am suggesting that before wasting my time, you do your research. There is plenty of information out there that debunks both the arguments that you have posited. Read it and return.

    You see, in order to be able to effectively debate this issue, you must have an understanding of both sides of the argument, and at present you are unable to grasp anything beyond the usual fundamentalist nonesense. As Vinny proved above, decalring yourself a 'winner' in a debate where you have not even understood the basics of both sides of the issue is hardly going to win you serious attention from anyone but those wishing to have fun with you.

    You may view this as a 'cop out' on my part, that is your perogative, but if you have any sense at all, you will understand what I am saying to you and learn from it. I have participated in these debates over the years as my posting history will attest, I have no intention of wasting time with you going over arguments that have already been dealt with on numerous occasions. Read these past debates, learn from them, have the courage to step outside the comfort zone of your beliefs and really think for yourself.

    Best regards to you both - HS

  • Satans little helper
    Satans little helper

    HS, thank you so much for your lucid and even tempered rebuttal of their nonsense. I have just got home from a very long day at work and was not looking forward to the pain of hitting my head against their brick wall of ignorance yet again.

    I am currently reading The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins, it is extremely thought provoking and is a must read for anyone with an open mind.

  • kid-A
    kid-A

    I think its so cute that Perry and Vinny found each other! Its the "romance of the week" here on JWD......

  • mouthy
    mouthy

    I am not judging you, Perry. For what you truly are is the light of my life. It's your shithead beliefs that I find pathetic.

    j

    J I see where your picture is the court jester. Very fitting LOL.......Didnt they used to call them fools>>?
    O.K. so it took the foolish thing in the world to put the wise to shame... Are you teaching Perry???
    Well MY vote is for Perry!!!! In MY book you lost....Your rudeness to Perry was petty, small minded, cruel. But we ARE free !!! so carry on trying to convince me there is no GOD, ( I also am considered a fool-because I BELieve Jesus is GOD)

    But I am gonna give you a (((HUG)) anyway !! & Hope this is the first day for the rest of your life -let it be a good one .......

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