by Perry 450 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
Trevor:
Just working aournd some of your comments, in my mind.
If we are prepared to allow for this possibility, we have to ask whether universal consciousness is the same as believing in God.
If such a universal consciousness were not "conscious" in the sense that we might normally attribute it, why might it exhibit many of the mannerisms of a conscious entity?
Ross,
lol.....Very good.
On a more serious note, I have watched your religious journey over the years on this Board and I sense an element of the metaphysical entering the scene in recent months. I would enjoy a thread in which you detail this progress. Can you ever imagine a time when you would not accept Christ as your savior but still be a 'believer'?
HS
Hillary:I might take you up on this, though it won't be imminent as you astutely note that I'm currently going through another transitionary phase.
As you will be aware, from my regular statements about it, I have never permitted myself to grow stagnant in my beliefs. I allow them to evolve and regularly sift them and strip out all that is redundant. I'm acutely aware that I have sprung from the WTS cooking pot and this adds an element of caution to what I verbalise. I believe it is process, and hopefully one that I will continue to enjoy until my dying day.
My difficulty with relinquishing "Christ" would be especially down to some of my more personal earlier experiences. However I would still sharply divide religion from spirituality. While I enjoy a variety of religious practices, though not with the previous relish, I deplore religion for its own sake.
The Celtic pilgrimage is a journey, not a destination
i cant believe this thread made it this far... i purposely avoided it this weekend, maybe thats part of the reason why it seems so nice now... or maybe its because vinny and perry arent posting anymore... this is the way these topics should go, nice... people discussing their beliefs, not yelling and belittling...woot
the infamous one
Vinny said
One day when I get caught up with other more important things, I will come back here to continue spanking the silly atheists. This is far too easy and far too much fun to just let go altogether. I have never lost one argument on this subject. NONE. ANYWHERE. ZERO.
Do you mean that you persuaded them all to share your theist viewpoint, which
you don't appear to be doing on this thread, or neither of you would admit defeat?
Just wondered...
dedpoet (who doesn't feel particularly spanked by vinny)
dedpoet (who doesn't feel particularly spanked by vinny)
Ditto dedpoet. My cheeks aint red at all.
One day when I get caught up with other more important things, I will come back here to continue spanking the silly atheists. This is far too easy and far too much fun to just let go altogether. I have never lost one argument on this subject. NONE. ANYWHERE. ZERO.
oh vinny, the only reason you think you have never lost an argument about this is because you are too full of yourself to admit it.. you ran away, just like perry and have nothing left to say about this topic... winning an argument does not mean repeating the exact same thing over and over again, it means actually having the other person concede defeat or run away in terror with no answers to your questions... you on the otherhand have ignored the opposition and ridiculed for nothing... i guess your new record is 0-1.... unless you count in life where you are a loser as well...
the infamous one
Anyone else think Perry stopped posting because he was getting embarrassed by Vinny's behavior?
i think maybe they both stopped because they realized that they were coming off as arrogant and condescending jerks... or maybe because with their backs up against the wall, they decided to disappear like the proverbial ostriches that they are
the infamous one
I do think Perry stopped posting because of Vinny....
One day when I get caught up with other more important things, I will come back here to continue spanking the silly atheists. This is far too easy and far too much fun to just let go altogether. I have never lost one argument on this subject. NONE. ANYWHERE. ZERO.
This arrogant quote was posted by vinny, (if you couldn't have guessed. I am going to have to agree with the others.
Vinny,
At no point Vinny, did you spank anyone, you talked about a car, and copy and pasted your answers over and over again.
I asked you to prove god without the bible, you couldn't. You cited back to faith and brought up the bible again.
I asked you to prove someone elses god wrong, you couldn't. You cited the bible again and said you were 100 percent sure. I am POSSOTIVE that you don't know enough about any other religion to prove them wrong. You just have excepted this as your own, that's fine, just don't cast judgment on others. It isn't you place to cast judgment, I KNOW you have read that before.
Vinny, if you said, " I can and do believe that we were created by god and I do believe that god is the sole reason I am here" I like most, I assume, on this website would have said "OK vinny that is your conviction, good for you."
But you couldn't do that you assume that you "spanked" all of us....you didn't. You drove that corvette in a circle and somehow lost your dignity.
But I will say you HAVE changed the opinion on some on here.
We all seem to assume that you are the worst type of Christian, the kind that is so haughty and puffer up with pride, you can't read anything, with any form of objectivity. The type that has no respect for anyone else unless they agree with you.
You can't assume you "spanked" someone when so many have read your arguments, (over and over and over), and still disagree.
I haven't brought up any scientific facts to you about evolution, because there is no point. I would rather explain them to my cat. At least my cat doesn't know how to cut and paste. You are completely close minded to any objectivity. I think you actually are a JW still, sounds like it.
Remember NOBODY on hear asked you to stop believing in God. You just assume you are being attacked because that is the same dogma preached over and over
