My first and hopefully last vent on JWD

by nvrgnbk 95 Replies latest jw friends

  • Pistoff
    Pistoff

    Nevergoingback:

    I am sorry you have to hear that poison from your parents.

    I think that in many witness parents a great conflict plays itself out on the children; they want their children to be in "the new system" and so they will do whatever they can to put them on that road, including physical abuse, scolding, guilt trips and shunning.

    At the same time, exposure to WT style logic, changes in doctrine and the practice of blaming the fellowship for the mistakes of leadership has made them, and us by extension for having been in their orbit, CRAZY.

    My mother, who I get along with well despite the fact that I go to maybe one meeting a year, made me crazy for years by reinventing my childhood for me. My father sexually abused my older half brothers; for years my mother reminded me that my father had his good points too. I finally told her never to say that again to me, that that was for me to decide.
    When I went into therapy, I told my therapist that my childhood was very good, no issues. That is not what came out of therapy, however; I was not abused but came out of it scarred up.

    I have another toxic person in the loop, a relative that is now the supercop in the family. Two of his own children are not really witnesses, but he has set himself up as the caretaker, wondering how my children "are doing spiritually". I don't answer him. I know that he knows; for years he has called the elders in my hall, even getting details about who will be df'd weeks in advance of the fact. So I know that he is aware of how my children are doing; he just wants to see what I think of it.

    Hang in there, Never; get therapy, get more if you need it. It can work wonders.

    MOST OF ALL: THOSE WORDS YOUR PARENTS SPIT AT YOU AFFECT YOU; DON'T THINK THEY DON'T.

    Some small part of you will resonate with all the JW inspired guilt you were raised with. Do something to counteract it; do affirmations, talk to friends, vent here more often!!

    It's great; very cathartic.

  • nvrgnbk
    nvrgnbk

    z - Thanks for the love and for tolerating my twisted humour.

    greendawn - Thanks for helpingme to see things so clearly about the situation of my parents.

    sass_my_frass - Thanks for your thoughts and helping me to realize that a relationship with my parents is not essential to happiness. I had been leaning in that direction anyway, but you've confirmed nicely my feelings.

    Snakes - Yeah. My brother and I have tons of dirt on the cult. I think maybe that's why they haven't gone after me more aggresively. I too hope he soon begins to post, or at least lurk, on JWD. If not for us, for his own sanity. Thanks for your caring. Hope your fade is going smoothly.

    TheCoolerKing - Thanks for extending your friendship to me brother. You're really much less evil in person than I was expecting.

    Stealth453 - You'll love him bro! He cracks me up. How's your beautiful family?

    SirNose586 -

    I suppose if someone un-deified my "god' (The WT), perhaps I would use such an extreme comparison too. These are the words of a desperate, vindictive man.

    How good to know that you are stronger than these sharpened, viscerating words...

    Wow! You really called it. Thanks for the support. You'll be getting to know my son in the near future. I'm sure he'll provide a fresh perspective for all of us. I'm kinda curious to read his posts myself.

  • nvrgnbk
    nvrgnbk

    Thanks Pistoff for your comments.

    Firstly, let me say sorry for your troubles as a child. I hope you and your siblings are making the best of things, in spite of your suffering.

    So much of waht you said in your post, if not all of it, resonated with me.

    Thanks for the good advice. I will put it into practice.

    Much love to you brother.

  • Blueblades
    Blueblades

    Nvr, whoever wrote "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never harm me!" Must not have experienced the emotional pain that comes when people especially those who are supposed to love us call us names or make references and comparisons to evil people.

    Keep on opening up, we are good listeners and supporters as you already know and read from the many friend on here.

    Blueblades

  • nvrgnbk
    nvrgnbk

    Thanks for that Blueblades!

    Your tenderness and sensitivity have always been noted and appreciated by me. You are a good man. Once again, I thank you for sharing your own story. I think that was on the " What did the Watchtower steal from you?" thread.

    Love and respect,

    Nvr

  • dedpoet
    dedpoet

    (((((nvr)))))

    Feel free to vent anytime my friend. You clearly have plenty of reasons to do so

    My mother, who is clearly not well herself, and is known by many as the "bitch" of the circuit has told me that I criticize the Watchtower because I am mentally ill. That if only I could get on meds I'd be a happy worshipper of Jehovah again. I tell her that my problem with the Watchtower is informational, not mental. I told her that the two of us should go together for a psychiatric analysis and I bet she walks out with more meds than me, if they let her leave at all.

    I think you are right there, you'd be the more likely one to be allowed to leave

  • nvrgnbk
    nvrgnbk

    Thanks for that dedpoet.

    I only feel insane when confronted with Jehovah's Witness propaganda.

  • I Know what I like, and I like what I know
    I Know what I like, and I like what I know

    Hi nvr, we have a lot in common. My 13 year old son lives with me and it's great! Also, I live about 3 miles from the german border, so if you want to know about the frauleins.......!

  • nvrgnbk
    nvrgnbk

    Hi nvr, we have a lot in common. My 13 year old son lives with me and it's great! Also, I live about 3 miles from the german border, so if you want to know about the frauleins.......!

    You're on my list of friends to visit! Don't 13 year old boys bring everything into focus?

    We'll compare notes on frauleins when I get there.

  • I Know what I like, and I like what I know

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