WHAT do YOU know about JESUS... and His teachings? (page 19)

bigdreaux

and then..................there was silence.

serotonin_wraith

and then..................there was silence.

Give it 2000 years. You know, like Jesus.

And if it hadn't been for the Nicean Council, we might know more. In 325 A.D. when Roman emperor Constantine formed a council of historians and scholars and directed it to put together what is now our Holy Bible, many many texts and documents were modified, removed, or left out. Our priests and later other religionists convinced us all that God's Holy Spirit directed these men and what we are left with is God's only inspired words. But is it? Consider these books and documents that were edited out:

Barnabas, I Clement, II Clement, Christ and Abgarus, The Apostles' Creed,

I Hermas-Visions, II Hermas-Commands, III Hermas-Similitudes,

I Infancy, II Infancy, Mary, Magnesians, Nicodemus, Paul and Seneca,

Paul and Thecla, Philadelphians, Polycarp, Trallians, Letters of Herod and Pilate.

Below is another partial summary of supporting texts that were removed. (However, these texts have been reserved for scholars.):

The First Book of Adam and Eve

The Second Book of Adam and Eve

The Secrets of Enoch

The Psalms of Solomon

The Odes of Solomon

The Fourth Book of Maccabees

The Story of Ahikar

The Testament of Reuben

Asher

Joseph

Simeon

Levi

Judah

Issachar

Zebulum

Dan

Naphtali

Gad

Benjamin

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May the Lord Jesus Christ keep and protect you, hibie.

I think you make an adorable couple.

hibiscusfire

bigdreaux: and then..................there was silence.

Ooh I thought you didn't like me. You missed me?

hibie

journey-on

Let me add this: The biblical Book of Mary, the mother of Jesus, is a prime example. For centuries, scholars thought Mary probably had a greater role in Jesus' life than we see in our modern Bible. This book gives insight into Mary's heritage and the family she was reared in. The family values that led Mary to her role as the mother of Jesus are of immense aid in showing how this young woman guided her son, instilling in him those things that allowed his gifts of healing and prophecy to grow and flourish. Additional books go on to tell about the time leading up to and immediately following Jesus' birth, as well as miracles he supposedly performed throughout his childhood. Why were these books not included? What sort of ideas did they present that "scared away" those picking and choosing what to include? You have to wonder, don't you?

hibiscusfire

journey-on: The family values that led Mary to her role as the mother of Jesus are of immense aid in showing how this young woman guided her son, instilling in him those things that allowed his gifts of healing and prophecy to grow and flourish.

Hi you got to be careful there a bit about Mary. At the grass roots, some religions are taught very little about Jesus. The emphasis is on Mary and her ability to "intercede" for the sinner with a distant Jesus and an angry God.

Do you remember when Jesus was around 12 years old and He went "missing". His parents (earthly parents), mother (Mary) and his father (Joseph) went looking for Him. They became worried like any caring and loving parents would. On the 3rd day they found Jesus. He was not playing with the other boys in the streets of learning to swim. No, Jesus was at the temple with the wise teacher, listening to them and asking questions. Mary and Joseph were very surprised to find Jesus in the temple. Mary asked Him why he had stayed there when they were going home. She told Him how worried they were and how they had looked everywhere for Him.

You know what Jesus said? He said," Why did you look for me? Didn't you know that I would be at my Father's house?"

Mary did not even understand what Jesus meant! The teachers in the temple were surprised how Jesus had asked them questions they could not answer.

Now exactly what things did Mary "instill" in Jesus? As a mother, Mary did what and behaved how any mother would. However, Jesus was very, very special.

hibiscusfire

bigdreaux

okay hibi. i have one post left for the day, and it's for you. that should tell you something.

while i do not agree at all in what you are saying, or the way you are doing it, i admire your conviction. i think you are a really good person. and if that avatar pic is you, your pretty good looking too, so, how could i not like you?

i will say, i think you should read back, and actually respond to the questions asked by other posters.

just because i don't agree with you, doesn't mean i don't like you. if i felt like that, i'd be a jerk........or a witness....also a jerk.

so, see you guys again when my post count gets re-set.

hibiscusfire

journey-on: In 325 A.D. when Roman emperor Constantine formed a council of historians and scholars and directed it to put together what is now our Holy Bible, many many texts and documents were modified, removed, or left out.

journey-on

Hib

You're quoting scripture at me, sweetie. Believe me. I can quote scripture with the best of them. What I'm saying is that we would know a lot more possibly about just exactly who and what Jesus was if we understood his development and the role Mary played in his early childhood. There is some mystery involved in the early life of Mary that is never touched upon in the modern bible and this is bound to have carried over in her role as mother of Jesus.

I, of course, am familiar with the incident you mention when Jesus was 12 yrs. old. But, remember, also, Mary was the one that activated him to perform his first miracle. He told her he wasn't ready, but she, more or less, told him to do it anyway. AND HE DID just as she told him to.

We don't know all of the facts and possible deeper mysteries because the Nicean Council chose to eliminate them. There is more than meets the eye IMO and with these other writings, more light might have been shed on the development of Jesus' healing and prophesying abilities had they been included. Maybe today we would understand the deeper things better had the church not hidden them from us.

WHAT do YOU know about JESUS... and His teachings?

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