I'm converting again. (page 11)

Junction-Guy

I am bitter---why should I try to sugar coat it?

If the JW's were anything other than a cult, why would this board even need to exist?

5go

I am bitter---why should I try to sugar coat it?

If the JW's were anything other than a cult, why would this board even need to exist?

The first point is good The second there are exwhatever sites similar to this one for just about every religion under the sun.

Yes there are plenty of EX sites, even EX Baptist, but the EX JW sites are the most prevalent, why? Because they do real harm to children, especially financial harm by refusing them a college education and so many other things that cause the children to feel isolated from Society.

jgnat

Is this thread for renee any more?

BurnTheShips

Sick!

Channeling Marx again I see. We know how well his ideology works.

Burn

BurnTheShips

So you think it's okay for Hindus to teach their children Hindu beliefs, even though that may send them straight to hell when they die? So you think it's okay for Hindus to teach their children Hindu beliefs, even though that may send them straight to hell when they die? As long as the parent believes it, that's okay. It was okay for the Romans to tell their kids the god Mercury was real? For the Greeks to tell their kids Apollo was real? Even though they were wrong

If that is all they know, yes.

Even though they were wrong, it was okay to make their kids believe in those gods because they believed in them, and passing off as fact things not based on evidence or reason is fine by you?

I suspect many of the things you believe do not have evidence either Sero.

I'm glad we don't believe in Apollo now, but perhaps that change came about when parents stopped teaching their children Apollo was real, at an age where they didn't know better. We're in the exact same situation now with the modern gods.

They stopped teaching about Apollo because they learned a higher truth. And some of the things they believed about Apollo possibly helped them to realize it.

Burn

serotonin_wraith

Junction-Guy,

She doesnt live in Timbuktu or the jungles of Africa, or some Asian country. She lives in America, and the bible belt at that. Her children will be taught to function well within the culture that is all prevalent around them. Big Kudo's to Renee, at least her children will have a normal life.

I didn't have time to add this in last time I posted, but I am not entirely convinced even you think this argument is a good one.

I'm completely willing to be proved wrong though.

I've thought of a way that would help me out. I'll write out a little scenario which ends in a yes/no question. All you have to do is answer yes or no.

The scenario is:

A young couple from the US decide to travel to another country in order to spread the message of Jesus. The country they choose to go to is a predominently Muslim one. Oh how these people need to see the error of their ways! While there, they have a child. Such joy! Having lived in the country for a number of years and loving the place, they decide they will raise their child there. In order for their child to function well within the culture and be considered normal to most around him/her, will the child need to be raised as a Muslim?

Now according to the argument you gave, I assume you would say yes, of course. But something's at the back of my mind telling me you may not stick to your argument when it's a different religion being spoken about. Could you please confirm your belief that the argument you gave is a good one?

Should the child be raised as a Muslim. Yes or no?

Hi Burn,

If that is all they know, yes.

I think we would be hard pressed to find anyone on Earth who only thinks there is one religion in the world. Even back in the days of Apollo etc, it was known there were other gods being worshipped.

I suspect many of the things you believe do not have evidence either Sero.

I have good reasons for believing everything I believe, and you can test me if you like.

They stopped teaching about Apollo because they learned a higher truth. And some of the things they believed about Apollo possibly helped them to realize it.

I think they replaced one god with another, but if you are saying there is more reason to believe in Yahweh over Apollo I'd love to know about it.

jgnat,

Is this thread for renee any more?

A lot of people came along to give her a pat on the back and congratulate her for finding something to believe with her own free will. I too, give her a hearty pat on the back. What slipped in was that her own children would have their free will stifled by being told one religion is true at an age they'll believe anything. I don't want them denied the very thing we're congratulating Renee for, the complete freedom to make a personal choice about what to believe about everything around us. So of course I hope she considers this, and doesn't use her free will to deprive her children of theirs.

reneeisorym

I don't want them denied the very thing we're congratulating Renee for, the complete freedom to make a personal choice about what to believe about everything around us. So of course I hope she considers this, and doesn't use her free will to deprive her children of theirs.

My children will not have a choice but it is not because of me. It is up to God to choose them.

Junction-Guy

No, the child need not be raised a Muslim, in fact since the parent went over there to christianize the country, they need to still raise their children as christians. If they are going to convert other people to their beliefs, why must they be willing to sacrifice their own childs salvation.

besides they went to that countr of their own free will, they stepped outside the bounds of legal protection when they chose to go to that country.

Another thing you must consider is that being a Presbyterian or a Baptist in Mississippi is alot different than being in a Muslim Country.

The answer to this question is that the parents need to find a happy medium for their kids while living overseas or get the heck back home before their child is converted to Islam.

Junction-Guy

Here is another point, Parents with children shouldnt force their kids to go to muslim countries, christian or not. Parents are free to make martyrs of themselves, but dont drag the kids into it.

Who in their right mind would want their children to be raised in Bagdad or Tehran?

I'm converting again.

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