"The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character... (page 20)

BurnTheShips

I once bought a puppy FOR A FRIEND. Turns out they did not like cleaning up poo.

Burn

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

I don't see God in that picture, do you?

Yes, I do see God in that picture. It pictures the history of God's dealings with mankind. Like I stated back at post

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/151311/2768280/post.ashx#2768280 ...

The account at 2 Sam. 24 is a most unpleasant picture of YHWH. David took a census, which for whatever reason was a sin. The consequence:

(2 Samuel 24:15-16) 15 Then Jehovah gave a pestilence in Israel from the morning until the time appointed, so that out of the people from Dan to Be´er-she´ba seventy thousand persons died. 16 And the angel kept his hand thrust out toward Jerusalem to bring it to ruin; and Jehovah began to feel regret over the calamity, and so he said to the angel that was bringing ruin among the people: "It is enough! Now let your hand drop."

Oh yeah, great move God, David does something you don't like, so you slaughter 70,000 ISRAELITES ! HE KILLED HIS OWN PEOPLE !! So, Jehovah felt regret. But he didn't resurrect the 70,000. After all, he wanted to make sure that David was suitably punished... by killing 70,000 innocent Israelite worshippers of Jehovah.

2,750 death certificates were filed relating to the 9/11 attacks on the WTC. 9/11 is nothing compared to how Jehovah destroyed Israelites to punish David. Picturing the destruction of lives in those two buildings? Imagine more than 50 buildings being attacked to kill 70,000 innocents. How would you feel if David sinned, so Jehovah killed 70,000 puppies? Jehovah would probably call such a puppy-killing thing "unthinkable". Yeah, so he kills 70,000 men, women, and children instead. Gee, where can I sign up to worship this God?

That picture also demonstrates the future of 6 billion people that God intends to shortly slaughter at Armageddon. To Jehovah, human life is cheap.

Regarding the comparison of the faith of the terrorists and the Israelites:

Last I checked, those guys never personally saw God lay the smackdown on Egypt, split a sea and a river, make food fall from the sky, and do a bunch of other stuff that pretty much establishes deity credentials. When they and a few thousand other eyewitnesses see something like that at the same time, and get marching orders, then we can pretty much start thinking of throwing the questioning and judging out the window, then we will be talking about some form of equivalence.

Well, last I checked Exodus, starting with Chapter 15, those guys that personally saw God lay the smackdown on Egypt, split a sea and a river, make food fall from the sky, and do a bunch of other stuff were ready to revolt and go back to Egypt. And God began punishing and killing them, burdening them laws and instituted a tabernacle for worship that was really a slaughterhouse. When you read the history of the nation of Israel without the rose colored glasses of faith, the 'eye-witnesses to God's power' Israelites, didn't act like they ever saw any deity credentials of Jehovah. They looked for any opportunity to turn away from following Jehovah.

So, be more loving, like your heavenly father Jehovah... or he'll slaughter you right there in your tracks. Shoot, he'll probably feed you to the birds even if you are perfectly obedient.

stillajwexelder

well one thing that can not be denied YAHWEH sure loved the smell of burned animal flesh - 'twas a restful odor to him don't you know. Now and again he liked being presented with some foreskins too.

BurnTheShips

well one thing that can not be denied YAHWEH sure loved the smell of burned animal flesh - 'twas a restful odor to him don't you know.

Well, I LOVE the smell of barbecue. I guess you must be a vegetarian, which is weird for someone with a Rachel Ray avatar. :-)

stillajwexelder

difference is I will cook a Porterhouse - YAHWEH loved hundreds of them burning

stillajwexelder

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Chronicles7:4-6) . . .And the king and all the people were offering sacrifice before Jehovah. 5 And King Sol´o·mon went on offering the sacrifice of twenty-two thousand cattle and a hundred and twenty thousand sheep. Thus the king and all the people inaugurated the house of the [true] God. 6 And the priests were standing at their posts of duty, and the Levites with the instruments of song to Jehovah that David the king had made to thank Jehovah, "for his loving-kindness is to time indefinite," when David would render praise by their hand; and the priests were loudly sounding the trumpets in front of them, while all the Israelites were standing.

That is a lot of burnt flesh - and yes I love the smell of barbeque

BurnTheShips

difference is I will cook a Porterhouse - YAHWEH loved hundreds of them burning

YAHWEH is a pretty big dude, seeing how he made everything and all. He had a big appetite. Burn

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

I love the smell of barbecue, yes. But have any of you visited a slaughter house, a livestock auction barn, or even the animal sheds at the County Fair? Have you actually lived on a farm with animals, or have you simply visited the grocery store.

Barbecue = good

Cow and sheep crap = bad

Steaming piles of livestock guts = gag

So, the next time you fire up the grill, don't bring a steak from the grocery store. Do it like the Jews! Bring the whole cow, have a priest slaughter it for you right by the grill. Whack off a hunk of meat and toss it on the fire. When the family comes out to see and smell the guts, blood, and crap, don't be surprised if they lose their appetites. And now you need to find a place to dump all the parts that don't get eaten.

Modern civilization - 1

Ancient Israel - 0

BurnTheShips

So, the next time you fire up the grill, don't bring a steak from the grocery store. Do it like the Jews! Bring the whole cow, have a priest slaughter it for you right by the grill. Whack off a hunk of meat and toss it on the fire. When the family comes out to see and smell the guts, blood, and crap, don't be surprised if they lose their appetites. And now you need to find a place to dump all the parts that don't get eaten.

Umm. I've slaughtered my own meat before. Wild stuff is even worse than farm raised. It isn't so bad. Especially if you do it often.

Burn

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Hey Burn, my fellow country boy. Surely you've considered what it would be like to: Slaughter hundreds of cows in central Jerusalem? While wearing a white robe? In the temple courtyard of Jehovah? In the heat of summer?

I don't know about your experience. Wild stuff we gutted in the woods. Carting a dead deer out to the truck is the hardest part IMO. However, we bled and gutting our domestic cattle, pigs, rabbits, and chickens in the barnyard. What a mess. The first thing they do once they start getting nervous is fight, then unload every bit of fecal matter on everyone and everything nearby (or not so nearby). We would always butcher the larger animals in winter. The stench wasn't so bad when it was freezing out. Chickens would be done in spring and summer. On hot days, the stink was enough to make you puke.

Yes, we still have livestock. But for the last twenty years or so we sent anything larger than a chicken to "the Locker" where the professionals do it. Back in the old days, and still today, we are vegetarians on butchering day. A couple days later, we were indulging in fleshly pleasures again.

All the work of the priests doing the sacrificing at the tabernacle and temple would have been hard work. Just bringing enough wood and water were full time jobs for lots of servants.

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