slappy,
This is a lost cause with Joseph. Revelation has to fit into the theolgy he prescribes too. He has learned to blatantly add meaning into texts and divide them up in a strange and twisted way to prove his own views. We know we did similiar things when we were in the WT. So we should have pity on him.
Joseph,
Just because John states "and I saw" does not mean he is describing two seperate visions. Revelation 19 is one complete vision as written down by the Apostle John. You are trying to pull the words out of their context to make them say something they do not. By stopping and starting in mid vision, you are breaking up the continuous flow of what John is seeing.
The beginning of verse 11 describes our Victorious Lord Jesus on the white horse come to execute judgement upon the nations and kings of the earth for their wickedness. In verses 18 and 19, an Angel, obviously not the same as Christ Jesus, invites those who are godly to come together for the supper of God and to watch the annilation of those who opposed God's kingdom. Verses 19 -21 shows thier total annilation into the lake of fire. Their annilation is what people were invited to witness. So again, this is one continuous vision. It has a beginning, middle and end.
And if you are claiming these events take place over an extended period of time, well that could very well be so but it does not change the fact that John was recording this as one vision. And he clearly shows there are two seperate entities described in it, The victorious Christ on the White Horse and an Angel.
Can you read? Obviously not.
Here is the complete vision about Christ on the White Horse;
11 I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war. 12 His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. 13 He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. 14 The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. "He will rule them with an iron scepter." [ a ] He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. 16 On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written:
KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.
17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun, who cried in a loud voice to all the birds flying in midair, "Come, gather together for the great supper of God, 18 so that you may eat the flesh of kings, generals, and mighty men, of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all people, free and slave, small and great."
19 Then I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to make war against the rider on the horse and his army. 20 But the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who had performed the miraculous signs on his behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped his image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur. 21 The rest of them were killed with the sword that came out of the mouth of the rider on the horse, and all the birds gorged themselves on their flesh.
Peace, Lilly
