Defence of watchtower society Links

by reniaa 343 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  Mary

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  The date 586 BCE is not supported by the Bible or secular history because the date does not account for Jeremiah's 'seventy years' and Josephus. This date is very popular with most serious scholars but it has a contender with the appearance of the date 587 BCE which is championed by apostates. The date 607 BCE is the only date that is supported by the Bible, Neo-Babylonian chronology when adjusted and secular history by means of Josephus. Research over many decades by the 'celebrated WT scholars' and other WT scholars of more recent times have confirmed this obvious fact.

  Apostates dismiss 607 BCE because of its historical and prophetic connection with the Gentile Times ending in 1914 CE demonstrating the reality of the Kingdom and its Gospel and prefer the darkness rather than the light of truth.

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  mrsjones5

  Well, erm (to quote Reniaa), all I did was to quote her own posts... I mean, that's pretty much all we evil anti-JW apostates have to do with the WTS... we just quote what the Society, led by God's Holy Spirit yet not Inspired, has said...

  @Gladring...

  Well thank you for highlighting what is really in Reniaa's post's. I really appreciate it cuz everytime I try to decipher her posts my eyes tend to gaze over, much like the effect of reading a watchtower rag.

  Josie
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  Gladring

  I have read the Gospel of the Flying Spahetti Monster and found it made false predictions...

  I'm surprised at you. It only appears that way because that's the way the FSM designed it, just as he planted dinosaur bones to fool the paleontologists. He made it appear as if there are false predictions as a test of our faith otherwise it would be too damn easy to believe in him... or else people would believe just for the beer mountain and stripper factory in heaven.
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  OUTLAW

  LOL@Lance!!.............................OUTLAW
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  Awakened at Gilead

  Stripper factory? Now there's a good religion if I ever heard one...

  Compare that to the gloom of the WTS...FSMism wins hands down...

  Who says atheism is depressing?
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  FireNBandits

  Just as the rest of the folks here, I'm a former JW who was put through Sheol and Hades COMBINED in my sojourn with the Watertower Bait and Tackle Shop. I don't need any third opinions or defenses of the WTBTS or the GB or the NWT or GFB (Great Flaming Baalzebub) or anything else. *Blech*
  
  They're the sneakiest bunch of lying slithering snakes in the grass I've encountered in my well over half a century of life.
  
  Tellwidim.
  
  Martin
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  Beep,Beep

  StAnn

  " Only the inactive ones could possibly have been out of the loop enough NOT to know about it. Guess your family was one of those "spiritually weak" families by WTS standards."

  If you want to consider having a father that was on the original body of elders in the congregation as of 1972, as a "spiritually weak family" you got me.

  "Consider yourself lucky to have been raised by lackluster Dubs so that you were spared what the rest of us endured. "

  Somehow I have a problem connecting lackluster with having a father that was an elder. Having a father who was giving talks in the surrounding congregations, I got to see many different Kingdom Halls and meet many of those my age. Does that match your idea of a "spiritual weak family?"
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  Jeremy C

  I was born and raised as a Jehovah's Witness and spent some 30 years in the organization. I studied their publications for some 20 years. I researched the key doctrines frontwards and backwards. I spent countless hours pouring over Watchtower publications in addition to many Bible translations, commentaries, and other books by Biblical scholars (real scholars, not JW pseudo-scholars).

  So, I find it amusing that Watchtower apologists would admonish people like me to be "open minded" about the very Watchtower teachings that I have discovered to be false.

  I have heard of accounts of the gold rush of the late 1800's where excited prospectors took loads of gold flakes into the exchanges only to be informed that it was fool's gold. Upon hearing this, the prospectors became angry; insisting that the exchange merchants were wrong and that their equipment must be flawed. They insisted that what they had really was gold, and that the merchants just couldn't see it. They clearly had an emotional investment in believing that what they had found was the real thing. It was all they had left. This is very similar to those who have spent a lifetime invested in a religious organization.

  This reminds me of the Watchtower with all of it's surrogates, apologists, and clingers-on. They just cannot let go of the idea that Russell hit "gold" with his Watchtower enterprise; insisting that it is everyone else who is wrong, and who cannot see the "spiritual gold mine" of the Watchtower. It is very inconvenient for them that some people choose to exercise incredulity in spotting the genuine from the bogus.
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  OUTLAW

  Beep Beep..You have pieces to the puzzle.You just don`t know how they fit..Having a Father that was an Elder,does not mean Sh*t..My Dad was an Elder,So What??!!.....I`ve seen many Kingdom Hall`s..So what?!!.....Was your Family Spiritualy weak?..Probably!!..What JW Family is`nt?!!!..LOL!!............Beep Beep..Your a BuSh*T Artist!..LOL!!.....StAnn has enough on her plate right now,with Family Need`s............You can alway`s Debate Me!..LOL!!................Come get some!!....................OUTLAW
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  Jeremy C

  Apostates dismiss 607 BCE because of its historical and prophetic connection with the Gentile Times ending in 1914 CE demonstrating the reality of the Kingdom and its Gospel and prefer the darkness rather than the light of truth.

  How childish. You know, this is the same method of argumentation that Evanglelicals use to criticize Jehovah's Witnesses regarding the Hellfire and Trinity doctrines. I have heard them use these same statements almost verbatim. "Prefering the darkness rather than the light of truth" is a snappy slogan that all of the religions use to describe those who disagree with them.

  We reject the 607 date because it is . . . . .uhmm . . . .wrong. It's a carry-over doctrine from the crackpot Adventists of the 1800s. It's the same reason that we reject many doctrines that are taught by other religions as well. I will also tell the Evangelicals that I don't reject the hellfire doctrine because I prefer darkness, I reject hellfire because it is ficticious. The same applies to 607, Mormon magic underwear, the rapture, snake handling, and Dianetics.