Could Watchtower Collapse Be Sooner Than You Think?

by metatron 122 Replies latest jw friends

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  The Almighty Homer

  Could Watchtower Collapse Be Sooner Than You Think?

  I certainly hope so, but realistically there seems to be growing and longing consciouses about the faith in general thats accumulated

  over the years with many long time members in that how come the end hasn't arrived yet when there were so many promises laid

  out that most JWS believed so much in and surrounded their lives with.

  In another way to look at some folks spent years studying the Organizations literature only to realize most of it untrue and misinformative.

  The writers of the WTS. have for over a century unscrupulously exploited the belief in the bible to help propagate their own literature.

  People within the organization are starting to become aware of that ever more so, with the help of outside fractions like the inter-net and others.

  I don't believe the WTS. will collapse abruptly but rather a slow decline , a reworking of the stated doctrines is probable in the future to

  down play their apocalyptic ideological push from the past, call it JWS - lite if you will.

  Easier to swallow and much lighter on the waste line.
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  steve2

  The wicked old world has had the audacity to linger on right into the 21st century - long past its heralded time to end. That simple fact forces the Watchtower to adapt way past its self appointed role announcing the imminence of the end.
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  The Almighty Homer

  A GB member asks " Is it possible to turn back time to let say 1914, it would really help out the organization ! "
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  willyloman

  leavingwt: Noted, but the donation arrangement is, what? Two decades old by now? That would have been the time to clamp down on magazine shipments. Instead, actual consumer demand continued to be a non-issue for the WTS, for reasons stated earlier. This is another of the many things that make intelligent dubs start to think. And once that process begins, things are never the same.
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  PSacramento

  If the WT hasn't gone the way of the do-do by now, I doubt it will, it fills a void for some and as such, there will always be people willing to join.
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  Cadellin

  True, PSacramento, but I think the big changes we've seen are going to continue--it may be forced to survive in a very different and diminished form.
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  Spike Tassel

  I actually think that a big expansion is in the making myself. The drama this year focused on parents helping their youth with interactive family studies, get-togethers, etc. If the congos actually apply all that, the real love will come, and many, many will be attracted. The dates don't seem so important now, which is a big plus. And the "Keep Yourself in God's Love" book being used in the Bible Study mid-week meeting is helping us to think and reason things out for ourselves regarding conscience matters. The "blood" issue is in its first/ second week of being discussed, and the weeks to come will be very helpful regarding the "fractions" issue, etc. The meetings are becoming much more practical, and more enjoyable in my honest opinion. But then, I come to each meeting with my meeting bag full of all the text books required, such as the Organized book, Teach book, Bible, Song book, notebook, SI book, Guidebook, etc. The notes I take often assist me with preparation for conversations here on JWN, such as this one.
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  jwfacts

  Spike, I just wonder how many JWs are aware that the change to "conscience matters" is driven by the lawyers and their fear of being sued rather than any specific Scriptural grounding.

  I think the JWs may become more mainstream and they certainly need to stop making end time predictions because the end is not coming and each failure just leads to decreases in membership. It is sad that soon the new members will not be aware of the insane history of the Watchtower and may actually believe what they are being told is truth.
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  The-Borg

  I actually think that a big expansion is in the making myself. The drama this year focused on parents helping their youth with interactive family studies, get-togethers, etc. If the congos actually apply all that, the real love will come, and many, many will be attracted.

  This will only happen if they drop the shunning and I can't see that happening anytime soon. So the slow bleed continues.........
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  Spike Tassel

  The TRUTH, Jehovah's Word, is actually more adhered to all the time, in my honest opinion. I don't read "membership" anywhere in the Bible, but I do read of Jehovah's Universal Sovereignty throughout as the theme. The congo meetings I attend has at least 2 former sub-COs in it, and several former presiding overseers in it; I really like it, even though I've got a lot to get right socially. The end is coming exactly as foretold, as a thief in the night! Switching to JWN a few days before my DC was just the right time for me. I'm keeping on the watch just fine here, using my Bible in various translations. The purchasing of them over the last few years is really paying off now. Insanity is like the fog, I think. After a while with it I adapt and get along just fine. It's about not pretending that the sky is clear.