If The Bible Is The Word Of God...

by XJW4EVR 210 Replies latest jw friends

  • PSacramento
    PSacramento

    I have never understood the whole "fear God" thing, fear our crap, sure, fear the crap we do to ourselves, for sure, but fear God?

    Why?

    Because some old farts in the OT told you so they could control you into following the laws that THEY created?

    Mofu please !

    God knows those that come to him because of fear or because they want rewardss and God knows those that came from genuine love.

    I have found God ( or hope so, LOL) and his loving Son , not because of fear or because I wanted something or wanted to be sure that I was "saved".

    I found God through Jesus because I found that, for some reason, they love me and all the other a-holes like me, in short I found God and jesus because I found their grace and received it out of Love, no fear no desire for recompense.

  • passwordprotected
    passwordprotected

    Let me just say that I have no objections to being "more like Christ" if this simply means being a good neighbor and following the Golden Rule.

    Perhaps that can be common ground for us.

    Kinda my point.

  • Atomahawk
    Atomahawk

    The keywords being the word of god, meaning coming from an almighty creator.

    This subject shouldn’t even be debatable and this fact alone proves who was the author or in this case authors.

    Why would an almighty god require imperfect humans to put down in writing what he could have easily done himself in less than a nano second. and preserve it intact and unchangeable is beyond me? He had to have known that this course of action alone would have cast doubt in mankind’s mind and heart as to the truth of his existence and what he requires of mankind.

    Also many take for granted (myself included at one time) that the present form of what is considered the bible has always been. Yet all one has to do is actually research the matter to find that nothing could be further from the truth. Even today there is no clear consensus as to what books were inspired and should be part of the bible and which ones shouldn’t be part. This is not a matter of opinion, it’s historical fact. Looking at the motives of many of the early Christian church’s through critical eyes also helps to understand what motivated many to select or reject certain books, again historical fact.

    For all I know the Koran was inspired and should be part of bible, why not the book of Mormon? Bottom line is god should have done the job himself if he wanted man to know the truth, it’s almost like he went out of his way to confuse mankind, pretty odd behavior considering how important the belief in him is suppose to be.

    2/3rds of the world’s population practice religions that have nothing to do with the bible and of this group 75% have never read a bible that’s roughly 3 Billion people. Pretty interesting considering the bible is suppose to be the word of the one true god. One would have thought the word would have gotten around already, especially considering it’s been around in it’s printed form for 500 years.

  • passwordprotected
    passwordprotected

    especially considering it’s been around in it’s printed form for 500 years.

    That's quite a long time.

  • Deputy Dog
    Deputy Dog

    If the bible is The Word of God, I would expect to be humiliated by it.

  • reniaa
    reniaa

    The biblie testifies to itself those that don't believe in it are fools to themselves and it's truths.

    1 Thessalonians 2:13
    And we also thank God continually because, when you received the word of God, which you heard from us, you accepted it not as the word of men, but as it actually is, the word of God, which is at work in you who believe.

    Reniaa

  • HintOfLime
    HintOfLime
    The biblie testifies to itself those that don't believe in it are fools to themselves and it's truths.

    So, you must also believe www.timecube.com. After all, if you don't believe in the time cube theory, then the theory itself says you are "STUPID EVIL and deserve the upcomming HOLOCAUST!!!"

    I mean seriously, is that the best the bible can do? Call people fools if they don't believe? It can't step up and provide proof? I mean, don't you pretty much know you've provided the best argument when the other person can only resort to name-calling...

    - Lime

  • Narkissos
    Narkissos
    the word of God, which you heard from us

    And that's supposed to be "the Bible"???

  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips
    And that's supposed to be "the Bible"???

    Heheheh.

    BTS

  • Atomahawk
    Atomahawk

    Reniaa with all due respect how can you equate 1 Thessalonians 2:13
    With “The biblie testifies to itself those that don’t believe in it are fools to themselves and it’s truth”? Paul's words don't even come close to meaning that in the text you quote.Taking words out of context or trying to have them say something other than what is meant like you just did is showing disrespect for the author. That verse is not open for interpretation by any stretch of the imagination.

    Regarding 1 Thessalonians 2:13

    Paul may think that what he’s preaching is the word of god, the readers may believe it’s the word of god, but nothing is proved by this self proclaimed truth. Just because I may say something is the truth and the person that listens believes me, doesn’t automatically make it the truth. It has to be provable especially when doubted. I don’t know of any religion that claims not to have the truth, Christian or others. Au contraire everyone speaks in the name of their god or gods. My time in the JW’s taught me one valuable lesson in life, doubt everything religious and don’t rely on faith.

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