Is there anyone on the GB who has more than a high school certificate?

by Lady Lee 64 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • Billy the Ex-Bethelite
    Billy the Ex-Bethelite

    Lady Lee, this is just off the top of my head...

    Of the current GB, none ever mentioned attending college. If they did, they've kept it secret. I assume they all finished high school.

    Jaracz, Losch, and Splane attended "Gilead University". Mildred Barr attended, but Jack didn't. Jackson served as a missionary, but didn't attend Gilead.

    Other than that, any "college education" came from reading Awake!

    Their only qualifications to serve as GB members is their ability to nibble crackers and sip wine once a year with a straight face. Which means, of course, they are going to be Mrs. Jesus Christ one day soon.

  • The Almighty Homer
    The Almighty Homer

    Thanks for the info Lady Lee interesting stuff,

    Just one of the many very pompous self glorifying false statements made by those special spiritually directed men of the WTS.

    This is a quotation from Lord Acton, in a letter to Bishop Mandell Creighton, 1887:

    "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men."

    Acton was preceded by William Pitt the Elder, who voiced a similar thought in a House of Lords speech in 1770:

    "Unlimited power is apt to corrupt the minds of those who possess it; and this I know, my lords, that where laws end, tyranny begins."

  • Lady Lee
    Lady Lee

    text from the video that Blondie posted above


    Fred Franz and his Rhodes Scholarship

    Background of F. W. Franz

    Frederick William Franz was born in Covington, Kentucky, Y. S. A., on September 12, 1893. In 1899 the family moved to Cincinnati, where Frederick graduated from high school in 1911. He then entered the University of Cincinnati, taking a liberal arts course. He has decided that he would become a Presbyterian preacher, so he vigorously applied himself to the study of Bible Greek. At the university Frederick was chosen to receive a Rhodes scholarship, qualifying him for admission to Oxford University in England.. However, before an announcement could be made, Frederick lost all interest in the scholarship and asked that his name be dropped from the list of contestants.

    Proclaimers book P 111

    How true is this

    From: Joyce Knight [mailto: [email protected]]

    Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 *:05 P. M.

    To

    John Hibbard

    Subject: Re: Franz

    Dear Mr. Hibbard,

    In the earlier years of the Rhodes Scholarships, candidates were required to pass a Rhodes Qualifying Examination. The examination itself was set in Oxford by the Oxford Delegacy of Local Examiners and sent overseas to local examination centers. The examinations themselves were returned to Oxford to be marked. The delegacy then advised examination centers ahd the Rhodes Trust of the results. The original examinations, given in October each year, required students to pass in Latin, Greek and Mathematics to be eligible to continue in the competition. However, in 1909, the Rhodes Trustees amended the rules to allow candidates to tale the Latin ands Mathematics sections in October and to postpone the Greek section until the following September, immediately prior to the candidate’s formal acceptance to an Oxford college.

    The Oxford University Gazette of November 1913 in Latin, Greek and Mathematics. These are the results I refer to in my former e-mails, i. E., qualifying examination results, not the results of the competition. Having passed the qualifying examination, Mr. Franz would have been eligible to continue in the competition, which meant he then would have been invited to an interview in his state of application. State winners then moved on to regional competitions throughout the United states. The Scholarship winners were announced at the conclusion of the regional competition.

    According to Mr. Franz’ statement, he dropped out of the competition before the results of the qualifying examinations were known. It appears clear that Mr. Franz was offered the opportunity to compete for a Rhodes Scholarship. However, it also appears clear that Mr. Franz was never offered a Rhodes Scholarship.

    I hope this information is helpful.

    Thanks for your inquiry.

    Joyce Knight

  • Lady Lee
    Lady Lee

    OK after typing this out something grabbed my attention

    He has decided that he would become a Presbyterian preacher, so he vigorously applied himself to the study of Bible Greek

    So he wanted to be a preacher and that meant he might actually need an education to preach in many churches.

    BUT and I think it is a big BUT if he followed the Bible Students he could become a preacher without the education and all that studying and exams and hard work.

    Wow what a deal. All the honor and no sweating out the exams and papers.

  • Lady Lee
    Lady Lee

    Billy Thanks for that info

    Is it any wonder the WT litterature is dumbed down?

  • Farkel
    Farkel

    In order to justify his lying about his education, Fred Franz prayed to Jehovah God for a way out of his problem. The next day, he had his solution and began to prepare an article on the subject for publication in the Watchtower magazine.

    The title of the article was "Theocratic Rhodes Scholarship Strategy and How It Applies for Christians"

    Farkel

  • Billy the Ex-Bethelite
    Billy the Ex-Bethelite

    Lady Lee,

    What is noteworthy, too, is that the education and thinking is completely INBRED. This week's Botchtower study is an example. They snip a couple of outside sources and select a few scriptures out of context and simply reinforce what has previously been taught. They ignore the mountains of evidence and dozens of scriptures that contradict what they choose to "teach". Often times, the articles are just slightly reworked from something a few years ago. The only "outside" thinking that would ever be quoted is what agrees with what they already believe. If they look for an "authority" to quote, they typically choose another Watchtower article from previous years. I consider that thinking to be inbred, no "outsiders" welcome.

    No outside questions or consideration of differing ideas unless it's something they are prepared to attack logically or illogically. It's simply reinforcing the previous wrong understanding. Just refeed the same thing they've eaten before. That's not education. That's indoctrination.

  • yknot
    yknot

    I remember that Lloyd Barry had a degree in science.......

    Here is the snippet from his life story:

    w99 10/1 p.16 He Helped to Spread Light “to the Extremity of the Earth”

    Though interested in sports and education, even earning a degree in science, Brother Barry maintained his keen focus on spiritual matters. Thus, on January 1, 1939, he took up the full-time ministry, becoming a member of the Bethel family at the office of the Society in Australia. After the government banned the Society in 1941, Brother Barry kept busy in office work, at times being assigned to write material for the encouragement of fellow believers. He also took an exemplary lead in the public ministry.

  • garyneal
    garyneal
    The Almighty Homer said:
    I'm seeing more JW youngsters today reaching up to get a HSD and even further than that.

    Not according to what I witnessed today at the assembly. Two high school girls, one of them was apparently an honors student for her guidance counselor kept urging her to consider college, were proudly proclaiming that they will forgo the 'temptation' of pursuing college in order to do more pioneering work. I could be wrong, but a part of me thinks that these girls are going to later regret this decision.

    I asked my wife on the way home what she thought of that and she replied, "Well if it suits them and makes them happy then who are we to judge." I have to admit, this was the first time my wife was so 'open minded' about that as I expected her to say something along the lines of 'I think they have good spiritual goals that I wished I had pursued in leiu of getting married, having kids, and pursuing my bachelor's degree in teaching.'

    But to play 'devil's advocate' I sincerely believe that these girls were somehow 'strongly influenced' to set aside college in pursuit of 'Kingdom interest.' What is even sadder is how the Society makes these people out as models for the rest of us. As shamus pointed out, it would seem like many people with advanced education came into the 'truth' after they earned their degrees (like the elder we have been having our 'Bible studies' with).

  • Lady Lee
    Lady Lee

    ynot

    after reading some of the other WT quotes about Franz I'm not sure I trust what it says about anyone

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