A question for all ex jws AND JW's here, btw I'm new too (page 7)

tenyearsafter

EOM,

I appreciate what you are saying, but I noticed something immediately about the book of Jasher you quote that contradicts the Bible. In verse 19 it speaks of Abel asking why Cain eats the flesh of his flock. I believe the first mention of the animals being given for food in the Bible was after the flood when God made the Rainbow Covenant with Noah. Since Cain and Abel were the first generation to be born after Adam and Eve falling from perfection, why would he be eating animal flesh before it was given to man to do so? I don't think the book of Jasher is anything other than an interesting apocraphyl book. Sorry to be a nit-picker, but that is why I don't feel these types of writings are very useful beyond their historical perspective of the people of that time.

TYA

sooner7nc

One ring to rule them all

One ring to bind them

One ring to bring them all

And in the darkness

Bind them!

jeremiahjs

Sabbath, Gods still on Sabbath day. its written.

beksbks

Sabbath, Gods still on Sabbath day. its written.

? You mean he is still on the Sabbath? As in quiet, not moving? Or still, as in "Appearing here every Sabbath! Week in and week out, GOD!"

sooner7nc

So, you mean to tell me that God can't go out and pick up any firewood to cook soup with, because he's still observing the Sabbath?

That makes me so angry! Damn Sabbath! Keeping our Lord and Savior from having his soup!

jeremiahjs

God is more than liklye resting on His throne in heaven hearing all seeing all and telling his angels and Son what to do. But Im not sure i haven't seen him and he didn't tell me. On the seventh day God rested, He didn't start over creating; still is creating, probalby won't ever stop, God is the Creator. He didn't say on the eight day Adam and eve sinned, but His physical body is still resting. His spirit is very active though, i assume. Besides im glad God isn't running around on earth himself because its written - our flesh cannot behold or see God's glorious face because we will die. Exodus 33:20, Hebrews4:9

beksbks

Bless your sweet soul Jeremiah.

inkling

God, the bible, and religion, on the other hand, is the art of making huge assumptions without any foundation. It is an art of stacking cards, and then trying hard not to sneeze, as it were.

Nice analogy. I will have to remember that one.

[inkling]

jeremiahjs

I was just meaning only God knows all the truth about everything and he will reveal all things when He and us are ready. God is really never inactive, all he has to do is say it and it will happen, he cannot lie. Jesus doesn't even know everything.(the day and hour of his return). God is creating something almost impossable - a free willed family that he can trust without death to time indefinate. This life is a test to see if we got what it takes-Love, forgiveness, trust, and devotion to God. Truth is nice and will set you free, and allows you to know God better so you can love him and another more; but knowing everything is God's job - and is not neccasary for salvation. He will teach us what we need to know when we need to know it, always have always will. God persuades us to CHOOSE to Love him TRY to be holy and righteous, repress the sinner in ourselves, forgive freely and love unconditionally and have faith - without knowing for 100%, without seeing - but still beliving without a doubt, if possable. Then God can trust us with freedom (our will, inline with God's will, still being free will) in eternity without death. If he gave us immortalaty from the start along with the knowledge of good and bad; God would have a big messy problem - a defiled, divided kingdom for eternity. Also we are a living temple housing God's Holy Spirit in this life and more so in the next. God's Holy Spirit requires a clean house(heart, mind, body, soul). LOVE is the main lesson in the Bible. True united love does't hurt anything, harm anything, or promote evil. True love doesn't lie, or do bad things, and it isn't self centered or greedy or hateful or jealous - but for the good of everything God created. That is why Jesus summed all the commandments up into two - Mark12:28-34, Mat.22:36-40 Only two of God's creations fail to please him - fallen angels and unloving, unrepentive humans - because of free will - God didn't want robots. Everything else God made reflects his glory and shows us his power, variety of things he enjoys, and wisdom.

Awww, And God Bless you beksbks (:

Balsam

End of mysteries, Welcome to the boards. I know years ago when I first came here I couldn't deal with the sarcasm and had to leave. I had questions but I didn't want such brutal answers becausse I simply couldn't understand them or their perspective until much later on. I hope you'll have patience with everyone here. You'll be able to tell which ones sincerely want to answer your questions and their answers will make you ponder. I never felt cut off from my creator and never turned away from God. What I did learn is to look a bit more closely at those who proclaimed authority from God over me. That needed to be challenged and for good reasons. Sincerely, Ruth Baker

A question for all ex jws AND JW's here, btw I'm new too

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