by Darth plaugeis 64 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
Oh one more thing Darth - quit getting serpents mixed up with snakes - you freaking idiot. If there is one thing that really pisses off JeHiccup MiCaca - it's when people don't know the difference between a serpent and a snake. Now god damn it - you've had it revealed to you - so get it right!
PS - I wish the greatest level of peace that can ever be bestowed upon you. Even if you are retarded for not knowing the difference between a snake and a serpent.
Great points from everyone again.
So the SNAKE was used by Satan we agree to that.
And thank you for clearing up the Snakes don't talk Serpents do........ I hear they speak at ZOOs...
Mankind is doomed........
No he is not. He will be redeemed. There is no redemption for one who is doomed…
When will he be Redeemed....... Mankind heard this since that faithfully day and if you Believe in the Jesus Story thats the last we heard of it.
Thank you........ Seriously for those points you have taken the time to respond in such Depth.
^ Just n from bethel, I'm starting a slow clap for your post.
I cannot understand how anyone, after realizing they were bamboozled by the Society, fails to retrace their steps all the way back to a critical analysis of the Bible. Or, worse, that they just blindly accept what the next peace-bestowing charlatan slides across the table. Did we not learn from our experience?
I cannot understand how anyone, after realizing they were bamboozled by the Society, fails to retrace their steps all the way back to a critical analysis of the Bible. Or, worse, that they just blindly accept what the next peace-bestowing charlatan slides across the table. Did we not learn from our experience?
Um... just in case some of that was directed at me (and if not, I apologize), I would like to respond. First, being on this board has been a great place to gain a critical understanding of the Bible. I've learned that we have no original copies. I've learned about the methods historians use to test validity. I've learned the means by which historians and theologians accept some writings and not others. I've also learned that we actually have quite a LOT of documents regarding the life of Christ - some have been put in a single book and so people mistakenly view them as one document. Some are scattered about and not put in the bible, for various reasons.
I learned a lot, and while this may have had the opposite effect on some people, it tested my faith and my faith is stronger for it... so I am grateful.
Second, I have deep affection and respect for Aguest. I understand many of the things she speaks about, in the same or similar way. Sometimes I read the things she has posted, and also that others have posted, and I think, YES... that's also the way I have been brought to see it. If I don't see things that way, I don't blindly accept them. I test them against Christ's teachings, and against love, and I pray, and I consider them with an open mind, but unless I have personally been brought to that understanding, I set them aside.
I follow no one except Christ, himself. My faith is in Him, and not in man. I did learn from my experience. For the record, as far as I can tell, no one who claims to have a personal relationship with Christ on this board has asked anyone to follow them. Or to blindly accept their words. Or asked for anything at all for that matter.
I follow no one except Christ, himself. My faith is in Him, and not in man. I did learn from my experience.
Tammy
Beautifully put Tec.
Peace and light
Just n from bethel I love you man!! ..Well OK in a guy kind of way at any rate.. ahem.
Whilst Shelby raises some interesting points there for me they still fall flat on their face. These are spirit creatures we are talking about, not physical animals so all the stooping and crouching and legs etc is at best metaphorical if applied that way surely. The descriptions in the bible of spirit creatures and seraphs are to be taken literally and physically then? What are they then interdimensional shapeshifters?
Shelby as you have direct communication with Jesus and he seems affable enough to chat with you on a variety of subjects, please enlighten us on the following: (Say WMF asks if you must so you dont get struck down or something)
When was Jerusalem destroyed by the babylonians? 607 or 587?
Does the 7 Times prophecy of Daniel have a 2nd fulfillment? 2520yrs? 1914 etc
IS the WTS Gods chosen Organization on earth today? If so, does he gradually reveal things to them thru "new light"? If so, how much more new light are they going to get before they get it "right"?
Who or what is the antiChrist?
Hmm I've probably let a few get away from me ,but that would really be helpful to some of us. I'd like to know what The LORD says to you about those please.
Cheers ...oh and LOTs of Peace(tm)
Good morning, dear tec... and the greatest of love and peace to you!
So they could still have been given life, through the tree of life - which could have healed them?
Had they acknowledged their error(s) and asked for forgiveness, they would have been allowed to stay... so that they could "eat" from the Tree of Life (Christ)... and live forever. That is all that The Most Holy One of Israel, JAH of Armies... who is merciful, slow to anger... and abundant in loving kindness... requires ANY of us to do when we sin. That is why our Lord gave the account of the Rich Man and the Tax Collector. They only needed to ask for mercy. It would have been given them. They didn't... because they were too PROUD to admit that THEY had personally done anything wrong.
Greetings, dear JIFB... and peace to you! A lot of what you wrote doesn't even bear responding to; however, others are usually watching what I post, so I will respond, if you don't mind. Thank you!
I love how somebody can take 1 person's post and break it down almost by each word, and have an absolute definitive answer for every single phrase.
It wasn't that difficult, really. Someone had a wrong understanding and perception of what to took place, as well as who and what all were involved. Now, perhaps they don't.
This reminds me of something...I'm not sure what though...I can't quite put my finger on it - OH I got it now - the Watchtower and the GB and a lot of elder bodies.
Surely, you jest. Those folks can't answer a third of what they put out there... or a fourth of what others ask of them. If it isn't already "written" in one of their publications, they either don't respond, respond with, "Let me/us research that and get back to you," or respond with "Wait on 'Jehovah.'" So, right off the bat I can see that YOU don't know what YOU'RE talking about... althought you are trying to imply that it is others. THAT... is your typical WTBTS, GB, DO, CO, PO, elder, sister long-time pioneer melarkey.
The sad part is that although the content of the theology has changed a bit, the dogmaticism is still there.
Apparently, so is yours: that you and those lke YOU... know. Whatever it is YOU claim to know. Here, that I do not. Can you spell "W-a-t-c-h-t-o-w-e-r B-a-g-g-a-g-e"?
The good news, Darth, is that the answers are available to all of us - not from men in Brooklyn but from our inner ear very own Lord
YES! And, well, there you GO - you DO know something, after all! Not much, I see... but enough. And that's certainly a start. Now... RUN with that!
Jesus Christ who now prefers to go by the name JeHiccup MiCaca.
Whoops, uh, now you're back to showing what you don't know. I thought that was a no-no among those who "think" like you (who I have come to realize don't think very much at all, but have simply traded one group of self-important men's explanations for who, what, when, why, and how... for another's...
Sure the theology may sound a bit like somebody got their dogma from a mix of Tom Cruise, Prince, and Napoleon Dynamite- but not to worry, you'll get it sooner or later, how do we know?
Again, you err: Tom Cruise in only semi-entertaining to me (depends on his co-star, really)... have NEVER liked Prince (sorry) and turn his little screaming butt off every time he comes on MY radio... and, well, only partially got the humor in Napoleon Dynamite. My kids LOVED it, however.
Well because MiCaca is the shit. Literally. Yep He's the bomb. The Grand Finale. He is the Truth.
No, that would be... nevermind. But, yes, literally... no, that would be the Father... and yes, literally.
And if your not hearing the voice - don't worry, the preferred method that JeHiccup MiCaca likes to use is internet message boards, preferably ones where there are a lot of people from more Christian oriented lands.
(1) He is not speaking here (but, of course, you know that... or DO you? I'm not so sure...). (2) Just what, then, IS the "flying scroll" seen by Zecharaiah?
He doesn't really like to visit boards based in Jewish/Muslim/Hindu/Buddhist lands.
Well, he DID say "Wherever the Body is, there also the eagles [things that eat the flesh of the body] will be gathered together." And there are a quite few partakers of the flesh [of Christ] here... so it makes sense to ME. But he isn't HERE himself. We are... as "ambassadors." So what?
So you're in luck - you are at the right place. Now he won't post himself though (he prefers to use his 'slaves' for those tasks)
Isn't that what slaves DO... the work of the Master?
what he'll do is tell some of his most astute listeners that they are now his slaves and that they need to post here to help you see that he is the shit.
Could be... among other things...
Sometimes they might go overboard though and post really long messages (longer than this one even).
Could be. I know that is the case with me, personally...
But the gist of their message is this - 'What?!!! OMG!!! You are not hearing JeHiccup MiCaca?!!! He's Right in front of you!!!! He's not giving you the answers? It's because you're not listening. Try Harder. There. Problem solved.
BOO-YOW!! And SO simple... even a TODDLER could do it. But not some grown-butt, able-bodied folk... like you, perhaps...
Come back and see me in a few weeks and we'll repeat.'
No, no, no, no, no... see, there, you MISSED it, again! No "come back"... because it's constant...
So there you have it Darth - your answer to that voice issue you're having.
And you answered it SO beautifully. Sublime, even!
And to anybody else that I obviously helped who are having similar issues: My lord JeHiccup MicCaca has this to say - "you're welcome beeaatches!" [Ok sarcastic rant over].
Uhhhhh, no. Wrong "god." My Lord doesn't call people "beeaatches". That would be YOUR "god."
As a side note - Is it just me or does this whole "peace" greeting seem kind of redundant by now?
Peace... redundant? Greeting of peace - redundant? A wish for someone to have peace - redundant? Oh, perhaps you would prefer me/us to greet you with "Greetings, beeaatches!"? Yes, I can see how you would...
What are we on the Starship Enterprise?
Oh, you mean the advancement of the greeting? Yet, you consider us more "primitive" than you. Hmmmm ... uhhhhh, no. The fact that you believe yourself to be "witty"... by calling your fellow... well, anyone... "beeaatches" (oooooh, look! They've found another way to call someone, what, a female dog!!!!") tells ME that you are the yet primitive one. So, what am I actually dealing wth here? Are you Neanderthal? Cro-Magnun? Second generation descendant of "Lucy"? Unevolved... period?
I mean do some people really think they are on another planet and talking to us earthlings.
I can't answer for others... but I don't know of any other planets that "someone" could be on, at this time, at least. How 'bout you?
Last time I heard that I was watching Flash Gordon or something: 'Grettings earthlings - peace be to you'...
OMIGAWD, I LOVED that movie! "Flash-aaahhhhhhhh"!!! Ming! The Boreworms!! The little flying vikings in their BVDs!! The tree people... with their green blood! I have been trying to find that DVD for years!! Do you know where I can get one?????? I will almost take back everything I've said to you, here, for a copy. Then, again... no. But I am serious about copping a DVD...
I don't know, maybe it really is just me.
It really is. Really.
Yeah I know - this is someone being sincere and sweet, so I should just say 'bless her little heart' like everyone else and then I should STFU.
Ya think?
Actually that probably is good advice for me at this point.
Well, you didn't "hear" it from ME. Question is, are you gonna listen?
Peace to you, dear JIFB.
YOUR servant (yeah, I am even to those Just In From the Place of False Worship (Bethel-ites), along with any former Hittites, Amorites, Amalekites, Perezites, the sundry Caananite... and other -ites, actually... that choose to go with the Household of God, Israel)... and a slave of Christ,
SA
Have to accompany hubby to the eye doctor, folks (peace to you all!), so I will have to get back to anyone I need to later.
Again, may you ALL have peace. Truly.
A slave of Christ,
SA
Especially large or poisonous snakes are commonly called serpents, and biblical tradition calls the shape Satan assumed to tempt Eve a serpent. But technically speaking, all snakes can be called serpents, from the Latin derpere, meaning to creep.
However, scientists use the word snake to mean any member of the taxon Serpentes, generally considered a suborder of the order Squamata, although Serpentes actually sits closest to monitor lizards in the evolutionary tree of lizards. (Snakes, then, are really just one legless subset of lizards.)
While the word serpent may be used as a synonym for any snake, a viper is any member of the solenoglyph snakes, including rattlesnakes, adders, water moccasins, and copperheads.
Generally, systematic herpetologists place vipers in two families. They are the Viperidae, or Old World vipers (adders, puff adders, etc.), which lack heat sensory pits on the face, and the Crotalidae (pit vipers), found in southeastern Asia and the Americas, which do have sensory pits on the face, including the rattlesnakes, bushmasters, fer-de-lance, cottonmouths, and tree vipers.
I just realized I'm kinda hijacking the thread here so, Tammy (Tec), I'll start a new post to see if I can get your input. Sorry, Darth!
