Ok Hearing Voices..... Terry I might need your help LOL

by Darth plaugeis 64 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Witness My Fury
    Witness My Fury

    With the greatest of respect Shelby, ..you do talk total utter Bullshit.

    For someone who has the Lords Ear and Voice why resort to such speculation and supposition at all much as the rest of us mere mortals have to? But now I guess your response will be the cliche one of "My Lord told me this", ...thats NOT the case is it because if he had it would be in the post above.

    Whilst i appreciate you have given a lot of this stuff a whole lot of thought and time to arrive at Your Truth, you really should just take a step (actually about 300 steps would be more like it) back and analyse what you are now believing in and also encouraging others to as well.

    For you followers of Shelby (yes you ARE even though you think you follow no man, ...or woman i guess?) please really have a wee think about this as well.

    I could go on, but I think a short memorable post is in order here.

    Cheers

  • Darth plaugeis
    Darth plaugeis

    AGuest

    I loved the take of the Guardian.

    I really liked it..... and what I read!

    It made me think ..... thank you...

    I thought about that statement for a long time....(longer that I'd like 2 admit)

    I came up with so many Ideas..... I need time to .........ABSORB!!!

    Thinking


  • jamesmahon
    jamesmahon

    Good thread.

    I was always rubbish at myth and symbolism in books. Just too logical and I lack anything approaching an imagination. Lord of the Flies? I thought the conch was just a shell, but no - it is a symbol of power (or was it pigs, or the loss of childhood innocence, or the luddites, or being constipated, or of a greater shell in the sky that had punished all shells to be hard and well, shell like?)

    Why did god create someone who had no hope of seeing anything in the bible but a collection of daft stories? Why could he have just not written things in a nice factual style in plain bloody english? If the serpent was really a terrapin why did he not just say so? Everyone knows those little bleeders can bite your finger off given half a chance so I would have fully understood then.

    Having read AGuests (why 'shelby' btw?) posts I think I get the israelite snake biting story now. The snakes biting the people were really the men impregnating the women. The copper snake was really a symbol for a copper coil. God was trying to tell the israelites to stop procreating in the hope that their barmy beliefs could be stopped before infecting the rest of the world. Bugger, he failed again. Come on God - make those symbols clearer or just bring the bible up to date. But then I suppose Adam and Eve would have just got the knowledge of good and bad from the internet then. I know I do on a regular basis.

  • AGuest
    AGuest
    For you followers of Shelby

    Well, at least I don't have to prove to dear cameo-d that someone IS saying such thing, dear WMF (peace to you and see thread re "My 'Cult'" if you're confused). Thank you, truly, for clearing that up. Oh, and obviously you didn't understand a single thing I posted; not to worry, though - you're not alone.

    I loved the take of the Guardian. I really liked it..... and what I read! It made me think ..... thank you...

    You are quite welcome, dear Darth... and the greatest of love and peace to you and your household!

    Lord of the Flies?

    Excellent book and fascinating movie, dear one jamesmahon (peace to you!). Did you know that the phrase is an inaccurate transliteration of the name "Beelzebub"? And that the name "Beelzebub" doesn't mean "Lord of the Flies," but "false god (baal, ba'el)... [of the] flying things (ze'bub)"... and refers to BeliJahEl ("without Jah as his God")... whom you may know as Satan, the Devil? It is true.

    Why did god create someone who had no hope of seeing anything in the bible but a collection of daft stories?

    I'm not sure to whom you are referring. Can you clarify, please? Thank you!

    Why could he have just not written things in a nice factual style in plain bloody english?

    He did. Man, how didn't understand that "style"... altered to reflect what HE understood... or THOUGHT he understood... when he copied, translated, printed, and otherwise reissued it. The error is not with God... but with man who purpoted to interpret God... without being led by/going through His Son, Christ, the Holy Spirit. I SO don't get why folks don't GET that... particularly in light of the statements IN the Bible that SAYS: "Do NOT put your trust in earthling MAN." And, "The stylus of the secretaries has worked in sheer falsehood." And, "WOE, to you... scribes!" What is so HARD to understand about that?

    If the serpent was really a terrapin why did he not just say so?

    Two reasons: one, it wasn't a terrapin, and two, because a "saraph/seraph" is a flying, fiery SERPENT. So, "serpent" was/is accurate. That "certain" men didn't know what a seraph was... and so assumed it was a snake... isn't God's fault. All they needed to do... was ask.

    Everyone knows those little bleeders can bite your finger off given half a chance so I would have fully understood then.

    Ah, yes, I see what you mean. But I think the copyists were able to relate "serpent" to snake more easily than they were to "turtle."

    Having read AGuests (why 'shelby' btw?) posts I think I get the israelite snake biting story now.

    Shelby, because that is my name. I have nothing to hide, so I don't hide behind my avatar. Even so, I don't think you DO get it.

    The snakes biting the people were really the men impregnating the women. The copper snake was really a symbol for a copper coil. God was trying to tell the israelites to stop procreating in the hope that their barmy beliefs could be stopped before infecting the rest of the world. Bugger, he failed again.

    See?

    Come on God - make those symbols clearer or just bring the bible up to date.

    OR... you could just go to, ask, and listen to Christ... which is quite easy, really...

    But then I suppose Adam and Eve would have just got the knowledge of good and bad from the internet then. I know I do on a regular basis.

    Uh-uh, dear one. You only know good and OF bad, thus far. To know bad... you would have to die. I assume you haven't, yet.

    Anyway, peace to you... and thanks: it's been "fun."

    YOUR servant and a slave of Christ,

    SA

  • jamesmahon
    jamesmahon

    Hi Shelby

    At least we share in common the need to not hide behind an Avatar - so just James works fine for me.

    The person who I was referring to who cannot understand myth and symbolism is me.

    Two reasons: one, it wasn't a terrapin, and two, because a "saraph/seraph" is a flying, fiery SERPENT. So, "serpent" was/is accurate. That "certain" men didn't know what a seraph was... and so assumed it was a snake... isn't God's fault. All they needed to do... was ask.

    So you mean there are not any little terrapins swimming about in heaven biting the toes of angels? Shame. How do you know what a Seraph is? Oh right, it says in the bible, this book that you said:

    Man, how didn't understand that "style"... altered to reflect what HE understood... or THOUGHT he understood... when he copied, translated, printed, and otherwise reissued it.

    So how do you know that when Seraphs are described in the bible they did not get this wrong as well?

    You only know good and OF bad, thus far. To know bad... you would have to die. I assume you haven't, yet.

    Well that is an assumption isn't it? I believe that I have died many times before so therefore it is true. On one of the times I was dead I got to know Bad quite well - she was an ok kind of lady. Bit heavy on the make up and so down on herself all the time but there you go. Now Wicked and Evil, there are a pair you just have to meet.

    Why do I not know OF good as well by the way?

    "Do NOT put your trust in earthling MAN."

    or WOMAN. Thanks Shelby, I won't.

  • AGuest
    AGuest

    Greetings, dear James... and peace to you! Since you are fairly new, I must give you the benefit of the doubt that you haven't read too many of my other posts. If that is true, then I must ask that you bear with me as I respond to your questions; you may not readily grasp what I share. Not to worry, though - you can, if you want to. Now, then:

    How do you know what a Seraph is? Oh right, it says in the bible, this book that you said:

    I know because (1) I see them, and (2) it's what my Lord told me they were. Seraph is a species. It is their species. Actually, that's not correct. It is a life form... as are plants, animals, bacteria, etc.

    So how do you know that when Seraphs are described in the bible they did not get this wrong as well?

    Actually, they did, to some degree. At least, as far as them having "bird-like" wings. They have wings, but they're not feathered...

    I believe that I have died many times before so therefore it is true.

    Okay. To each his own, I say...

    On one of the times I was dead I got to know Bad quite well - she was an ok kind of lady.

    Actually, he is neither male nor female. Bad (Death) is asexual. As are all spirit beings, except the Most Holy One of Israel. Eve, who came out of Adham... who came out of God... who is both... male... AND female.

    Bit heavy on the make up and so down on herself all the time but there you go.

    Sounds more like the depiction of "Jezebel" in the WTBTS publications. Though how THEY know how much makeup she wore is a total mystery to ME. Gives the impression that any woman who does is sheisty, suspect... and that's not the case at all. Indeed, I know women who don't wear a stitch of makeup at all... and they're sheisty and suspect as all get-out. Some spend their time "placing magazines".

    Now Wicked and Evil, there are a pair you just have to meet.

    Oh, now, see... there you go erring again. Wicked and Evil are a part of the triune god known as Death (who also goes by the term "Bad")...

    Why do I not know OF good as well by the way?

    You do. You just probably don't know to appreciate that fact, yet. It's called... life.

    or WOMAN.

    "Man with a womb." Same thing: still man...

    Thanks Shelby, I won't.

    You're welcome... and you shouldn't. I wouldn't.

    Peace to you, dear James.

    A slave of Christ,

    SA

  • Witness My Fury
    Witness My Fury

    So not only do you hear the Lord and have 2 way conversations on all manner of secret knowledge with him, ...you also SEE seraphs!!

    It just keeps getting better and better doesnt it? You've just confirmed something I already knew... You need help.

    Cheers

  • jamesmahon
    jamesmahon

    Shelby

    I had a relative who was schizophrenic. Your comments are too much like what she used to say when she was having an episode so hope you appreciate me not responding to any of your threads anymore. Either

    You have mental health problems

    You are deluding yourself

    You are deliberately deluding others

    You are just mocking people

    Which ever of these it is I feel really sorry for you and think it innappropriate to even gently tease you about what you say. As someone who has known someone closely with similar delusions to Shelby, unless someone knows her personally and knows she does not have mental health problems engaging with their delusion in no way helps them.

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    JamesMahon..

    I`ve known Shelby for years..She`s for real..

    Does she actually hear and see what she says she does?..I have no Idea..

    I know she believes it..

    Shelby is also a very smart lady..

    Smart enough to be "Qualified" to take a Lawyers Bar Exam..

    If Shelby and others have beliefs most of us find hard to understand..So what?..

    Theres not a person here that can prove,they don`t have these experiences..

    And..

    None of them are asking for anything,or hurting anyone..

    ........................... ...OUTLAW

  • jamesmahon
    jamesmahon

    Outlaw - you have a PM

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