Ok Hearing Voices..... Terry I might need your help LOL

by Darth plaugeis 64 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  OUTLAW

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  Darth plaugeis

  Any thoughts on the Lilith story Adam's first wife??

  Interesting concept.

  And I wonder if the Serpent was there too?
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  AGuest

  Any thoughts on the Lilith story Adam's first wife??

  I personally had no knowledge of Lilith prior to your question, dear Darth (may you have peace), other than what folklore and tradition teach, so I had to ask. Folklore and tradition aside, here is what I received regarding "Lilith" from my Lord:

  The "woman" Lilith is no more a woman that my Lord is a woman; however, like the voice of "wisdom"... which is "female" but is my Lord, "she" is the "voice" that seduced Eve, and began a seduction of Adham long before, which Eve concluded. That voice came from the Darkness/Night, which was in opposition to my Lord, the Light/Day... which is why the "woman" Lilith is sometimes referred to as the "night demon" (i.e., the dark one). There are those (human men) who, unable to believe anything other than that it was a woman who seduced the man Adham, that Satan can be anything but male... who contrived another entity in the garden, another "wife" for Adham. Most cannot perceive, however, that although asexual spirit beings can manifest themselves in both male and female essence. Some, though, knew this to be true and so you will on occasion hear that the "serpent" was actually female. Thus, the name "Satan" is, in many Latin languages, "Satana"... which is female.

  It is often thought... and taught... that Adham and Eve had no knowledge of Satan, that "he" only appeared in the garden come the time he spoke with Eve. That is not accurate. He was in existence before both Adham and Eve and was set in the garden to protect it from other spirit beings. Both he and Adam existed before the garden was planted... Eve came after. Prior to Eve, however, this being and Adham had a relationship; not one of man/woman... but of adham (earthling man)/ and spirit. Satan was there to protect the garden... Adham... and later Eve... from enemies in the spirit world. Both Adham and the Satan had access "in and out" of the garden (and Adham was outside when Eve was taken from him) before Eve came along. When she did, both Adham and Eve knew him... and spoke with him. There was no reason for them NOT to speak with him (he had not shown any tendency toward evil) and, thus, Eve was not surprised when "he" questioned her as to the tree of the knowledge of good and bad.

  Prior to this, however, the being spent a great deal of time... seducing Adam. And getting to know what it would TAKE... to get Adham to eat. He learned, from his discussions and dealings with Adham... what it would take. Thus, he KNEW better than to try and entice Adham to eat first - so he went through Eve... and got her to do it.

  Why did the being wish to get Adham to eat? The tradition helps us understand: per tradition, "Lilith" did not want to be in subjection to Adham. "She" believed they were equal. The TRUTH, however, is that SATAN did not want to be in subjection to Adham. As a spirit, created from the spirit realm and NOT from mere "dirt" (the earth), he thought he should have position OVER earthling man... rather than being relegated to protector of earthling man. He felt himself wiser, stronger, and more beautiful. But he couldn't simply TAKE authority over man; he didn't have the power to do that. So, he had to get man to subject HIMSELF to him. And that is exactly what he did: he got Adham to "go through" him... and so through the doorway to death... versus going through Christ... the doorway to life.

  This is the REASON "bad" spirit beings are waging war with the remaining ones of [the seed of the woman]. They are SPIRITS... and so not subject to sickness, death, fear (as we know it), aging, etc. And as a result there are some among them who believe the inheritance should have been THEIRS... and not earthling man's. And why was the inheritance given to earthling man? Because is who the SON loves. The rebellion of spirit beings, therefore, started with BeliJahEl, who is called Satan and Devil... who viewed Adham and Eve as his COMPETITION, and so rebelled first, in the garden, by usurping God's authority over earthling man... and redirecting earthling man's loyalty and obedience, so that HE became their "father". And he used wiles attributed to women (by men)... "Lilith"... the vioce of the "boisterous" woman... to do it.

  Thus, the word of my Lord, the Holy One of Israel and Holy Spirit, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH, who is the Son and Christ of the Most Holy One of Israel, JAH of Armies, is that there was no literal woman named "Lilith," but there was one who used a "woman" to seduce Adham, then Eve, so that both would turn their faces away from the [propitiatory] "cover" and toward him:

  Does not wisdom keep calling out, and discernment keep giving forth its voice? On top of the heights, by the way, at the crossing of the roadways it has stationed itself. At the side of the gates, at the mouth of the town, at the going in of the entrances it keeps crying loudly: "To YOU, O men, I am calling, and my voice is to the sons of men. O inexperienced ones, understand shrewdness; and YOU stupid ones, understand heart. Listen, for it is about the foremost things that I speak, and the opening of my lips is about uprightness. For my palate in low tones utters truth itself; and wickedness is something detestable to my lips. All the sayings of my mouth are in righteousness. Among them there is nothing twisted or crooked. All of them are straight to the discerning one, and upright to the ones finding knowledge. TAKE my discipline and not silver, and knowledge rather than choice gold. For wisdom is better than corals, and all other delights themselves cannot be made equal to it. "I, wisdom, I have resided with shrewdness and I find even the knowledge of thinking abilities. The fear of JaHVeH means the hating of bad. Self-exaltation and pride and the bad way and the perverse mouth I have hated. I have counsel and practical wisdom. I-understanding; I have mightiness. By me kings themselves keep reigning, and high officials themselves keep decreeing righteousness. By me princes themselves keep ruling as princes, and nobles are all judging in righteousness. Those loving me I myself love, and those looking for me are the ones that find me. Riches and glory are with me, hereditary values and righteousness. My fruitage is better than gold, even than refined gold, and my produce than choice silver. In the path of righteousness I walk, in the middle of the roadways of judgment, to cause those loving me to take possession of substance; and their storehouses I keep filled.

  "JaHVeH himself produced me as the beginning of his way, the earliest of his achievements of long ago. From time indefinite I was installed, from the start, from times earlier than the earth. When there were no watery deeps I was brought forth as with labor pains, when there were no springs heavily charged with water. Before the mountains themselves had been settled down, ahead of the hills, I was brought forth as with labor pains, when as yet he had not made the earth and the open spaces and the first part of the dust masses of the productive land. When he prepared the heavens I was there; when he decreed a circle upon the face of the watery deep, when he made firm the cloud masses above, when he caused the fountains of the watery deep to be strong, when he set for the sea his decree that the waters themselves should not pass beyond his order, when he decreed the foundations of the earth, then I came to be beside him as a master learner ("fosterling"), and I came to be the one he was specially fond of day by day, I being glad before him all the time, being glad at the productive land of his earth, and the things I was fond of were with the sons of men.

  "And now, O sons, listen to me; yes, happy are the ones that keep my very ways. Listen to discipline and become wise, and do not show any neglect. Happy is the man that is listening to me by keeping awake at my doors day by day, by watching at the posts of my entrances. For the one finding me will certainly find life, and gets goodwill from JaHVeH. But the one missing me is doing violence to his soul; all those intensely hating me are the ones that do love death."

  "True wisdom has built its house; it has hewn out its seven pillars. It has organized its meat slaughtering; it has mixed its wine; more than that, it has set in order its table. It has sent forth its lady attendants, that it may call out on top of the heights of the town:"Whoever is inexperienced, let him turn aside here." Whoever is in want of heart-she has said to him: "Come, feed yourselves with my bread and share in drinking the wine that I have mixed. Leave the inexperienced ones and keep living, and walk straight in the way of understanding."

  The "she" in verse 4 is misleading for it is same One who is depicted in Chapter 8... and it my Lord. That those who copied didn't really know WHO they were speaking of is borne out in the fact that they could not tell whether wisdom truly IS a "she"... or an "it." Regardless, "she/it" is TRUE wisdom. There is another "woman", however, who calls out the same message. The difference, though, is that while my Lord is wise and his voice speaks "in low tones" (Proverb 8:7), THIS woman, is stupid... and loud:

  "The woman of stupidity is boisterous. She is simplemindedness itself and has come to know nothing whatever. And she has seated herself at the entrance of her house, upon a seat, [in] the high places of the town, to call out to those passing along the way, those who are going straight ahead on their paths: 'Whoever is inexperienced, let him turn aside here." And whoever is in want of heart-she has also said to him: "Stolen waters themselves are sweet, and bread [eaten] in secrecy-it is pleasant.'But he has not come to know that those impotent in death are there, that those called in by her are in the low places of She´ol."

  Today, this "stupid woman" has another name: Babylon the Great. She represents those who profess to be anointed ("you are the anointed cherub that is covering"), but rather than sticking to their husbandly owner, rather than keeping THEIR faces toward the [propitiatory] "cover"... that is Christ... they, too, turn their faces away and toward another. AND... like the "woman" in the garden, the "voice" that is "Lilith"... "she"... Babylon the Great... seduces others to do so, as well. She does so loudly... through...religion.

  I, SA, have stated it to you just as I have heard and received it from my Lord, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH, who is the Holy One of Israel and Holy Spirit, and the Son and Christ of the Most Holy One of Israel, JAH of Armies.

  Again, peace to you!

  A slave of Christ,

  SA
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  Darth plaugeis

  I believe Lilith also would be blamed for SIDS. In ancient times.

  I can't wait to look over all that material...

  thanx again AGuest.
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  Darth plaugeis

  Don't quote me but I thought I remember a comment from someone about Lilith and Eve.....

  More has been written about Lilith than Eve.(could be.. His. Channel sorry)

  I like how she found it insulting to be submissive to Adam.

  This story sounds more real than our Version