by sabastious 94 Replies latest watchtower bible
Just as there was no earthwide flood that killed every living creature except for 8 people and several dozen species of animals in a big wooden box there is not going to be a genocidal war between God and men.
I like where you are going, but that's not what this thread is about.
-Sab
This sounds very JW.
Really ?
What part?
I kind of side with the people Noah was warning, why would they all be destroyed? They already were being punished because of sin through death. No need for a second punishment.
Punishment was for other reasons, supposedly, in the view of some it was to eliminate the contamination that was caused by angles and demons bredding with humans.
When did God set rules about being "too immoral" when he gave humans the boot from the Garden?
Not sure what you mean...
Can you give a tangible reason as to why there needs to be destruction before judgement?
I think I worded that wrong, sorry, there is JUDGMENT ( where all those that have not knwo Christ will knwo and choose) and THEN "destruction".
I think I worded that wrong, sorry, there is JUDGMENT ( where all those that have not knwo Christ will knwo and choose) and THEN "destruction".
Ok, that makes more sense.
-Sab
Not sure what you mean...
God explicitly states that a main factor for getting rid of the humans (except Noah) was because they were "too immoral" or something along those lines.
My point is that where is this code or law they were being held to by penalty of instant death (instead of gradual death, which is the documented punishment for sin).
-Sab
Really ?
What part?
The text I quoted from you is the very premise of the Watchtower theology.
-Sab
God explicitly states that a main factor for getting rid of the humans (except Noah) was because they were "too immoral" or something along those lines.
My point is that where is this code or law they were being held to by penalty of instant death (instead of gradual death, which is the documented punishment for sin).
Ah, I see , yes a good point you make there.
Well, according to the account, it wasn't a question of immorality, it was a question of them "running amok" doing all kinds of horrible violent stuff:
5 b The Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every c intention of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. 6 And d the Lord was sorry that he had made man on the earth, and it e grieved him to his heart. 7 So the Lord said, “I will blot out man whom I have created from the face of the land, man and animals and creeping things and birds of the heavens, for I am sorry that I have made them.”
11 Now the earth was corrupt in God’s sight, and the earth was filled with violence. 12 And God j saw the earth, and behold, it was corrupt, k for all flesh had corrupted their way on the earth. 13 And God said to Noah, l “I have determined to make an end of all flesh, 3 for the earth is filled with violence through them. Behold, I will destroy them with the earth.
Well, according to the account, it wasn't a question of immorality, it was a question of them "running amok" doing all kinds of horrible violent stuff:
Yeah, I didn't remember the actual accusation of the people so I just defaulted to "too immoral."
Yet again, why are they being held to any code?
-Sab
That made me laugh (in a good way!) good form!
I'm glad. We don't have to take these discussions too seriously, you know.
So how does your scripture synergize with my scripture about the big A being JUST as Noah's day? Your assertion would make it seem very different than Noah's day.
I believe the thrust of Jesus' words is that people, although warned, would not take heed.
Incidentally, the Book of Jasher says the people of Noah's day were warned for 120 years by Noah and Methuselah.
Syl
