by oldlightnewshite 172 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
1) They diregard the 10 Commandments
2) They disregard the rest of Torah
3) Use an adulterated form of God's name
4) Use an adulterated form of Messiah's name.
5) Women aren't covered(head)
6) Pervert justice
7) Don't baptize in the name of Messiah
8) Do strange things with Scripture(NWT)
9) Require absolute obedience to men
10) Protect pedophiles
5) Women aren't covered(head)
Freydo... jws make sisters wear a headcovering when performing the duties of a brother...for example leading a group in prayer... it's usually a hankie or a hat...
Do you really think women need to be covered up to worship God? If so...why?
Coffee
coffee_black Fernando,
Great post... and and a hearty Welcome!!!!!!
Coffee
Welcome Fernando!
Blessings,
Stephen
They lead the league in false prophecies.
Yes, Isaac they do. There is no other group on the planet that has predicted more dates for Armageddon to come. And I don't think any other group ever predicted that the "ancient worthies" would return to live in a mansion in San Diego!!
Coffee
Coffee_black, I guess they also have the wackiest false prophecies too!
Strange how their defintion of fale prophet is such a simple, easy to understand when they are speaking of other relgions, but this murky, difficult to understand defintion full of all sorts of qualifications when it comes to themself. If the definition the WT uses for a false prophet when speaking of themself was a real defintion, a person/org would have to be braindead to fit the definition.
I don't wish to fall for Debators thread diverting, suffice to say his assertions about Coptic John 1v1 are far from the whole truth, use the search facility on here and you will see Leo has explained this at length.
We are getting so many different Top Tens, I wonder why an Apologist for the WT like Debator does not address most of those points, just some arcane points ?
Keep 'em all comin' folks !
We will end up with a top 1,000 before long !
I am not sure if anyone else mentioned 237 mistranslations/addtions to the NT...
Symbolism of texts that contradict their theology.
Fernando
1/ Romans 16:17
I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them.
Acts 17:11
Now the Bereans were of more noble character than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true.
2/ unsubstantiated opinion. James 1:26
If anyone considers himself religious and yet does not keep a tight rein on his tongue, he deceives himself and his religion is worthless. The bible recognises religion and people were meant to become Christians.
3/ Mostly unsubstantiated opinion on religion, I think confusing divisions with religion.
Acts 26:28-29 (New International Version)
28 Then Agrippa said to Paul, "Do you think that in such a short time you can persuade me to be a Christian?"
29 Paul replied, "Short time or long—I pray God that not only you but all who are listening to me today may become what I am, except for these chains."
4/ Only someone that hasn't read the bible can write the "Good News" in one sentence. Since the "Good News" encompasses Man's whole salvation and our Future hope in God's kingdom. The bible itself refers to many different aspects of the "Good News" BTW we fully recognise Jesus's Role as high Priest and the full meaning of this. Hmm you do not seem that knowledgeable of our teachings. It is trinity that struggles with his priesthood between God and men also his mediatorship between God and men as both roles Put Jesus in the middle and so clearly not God himself.
5/ You mean the "Good news" of God's kingdom that leads to man's salvation? first refered to in Genesis with the "seed" promise? oops I think I have to go in a corner and go insane! seriously! you are just waxing lyrical on your opinion with little evidence.
6/ We use no idols in our worship quite the contrary we rejected the "Cross" idol in all churches that people worship kiss and bow down too. Having men in shepherding positions making decisions for the whole is biblical as well as something you would have to condemn all Christianity for including the apostles.
Acts 1:20-21 (New International Version)
20 "For," said Peter, "it is written in the book of Psalms,
" 'May his place be deserted;
let there be no one to dwell in it,' [a] and,
" 'May another take his place of leadership.' [b] 21 Therefore it is necessary to choose one of the men who have been with us the whole time the Lord Jesus went in and out among us,
7/ We fully accept Jesus's mediatorship of the covenant that involves the 144,000. What we don't do is turn something Jesus instituted as a remembrance of him and his sacrifice and turn it into a canabalistic salvation ceremony from false understanding of Scripture.
Luke 22:19 (New International Version)
19 And he took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, "This is my body given for you; do this in remembrance of me."
8/ Where is your scriptural back-up for this position? a scattered flock is not a natural position to get spirituality uplifted from. Gathered together as a unified flock with shepherds whether you call it religion/church/congregation/organisation/people is a natural state for Jehovah's people. It feels like you are trying to recreate the word "Religion" and put some huge problem you have personally on it and then denounce it.
9/ I think you seem to be just flaying an authoritive structure here but this is simply not biblical.
1 Corinthians 12:28
And in the church God has appointed first of all apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then workers of miracles, also those having gifts of healing, those able to help others, those with gifts of administration, and those speaking in different kinds of tongues.
10/ You seem to be an anti-authority person this is not unusual but it simply isn't biblical. shepherds/ positions of authority/ having to make the hard decisions for the whole flock is a biblical theme. How can the 144,000 become kings and priests in the kingdom if they have not first trianed for the job on earth as shepherds?
Matthew 24:45-47 (New International Version)
45 "Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put IN CHARGE of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time? 46 It will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns. 47 I tell you the truth, he will put him IN CHARGE of all his possessions.
1 Corinthians 5:12-13 (New International Version)
12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 13 God will judge those outside. "Expel the wicked man from among you." [a]
Leadership is not a evil sin but a biblical requirement.
Hebrews 13:17
Obey your leaders and submit to their authority. They keep watch over you as men who must give an account. Obey them so that their work will be a joy, not a burden, for that would be of no advantage to you.
Shepherds in leadership roles can I acknowledge be a great force for good or evil and they will be held accountable for this but to just reject them is simply not an option for Christians.
Leaders are not meant to be passive fools either allowing the flock to run amuck. They have to feed/support/rebuke/judge/keep clean the flock and ours do all that.
