I'm Starting To Understand Atheist and Evolution

by Philadelphia Ponos 106 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • cantleave
    cantleave

    PP - how many stars are there in a galaxy? Trillions

    How many galaxies are there in universe? Billions

    What is the likelyhood that there are other planets the right distance from a star, to support life? Highly likely

    Life is what matter does!!

  • sabastious
    sabastious
    That statement was so straightfoward I didn't think it needed any further explanation, but to answer your question if you put human beings on any other planet in the entire universe the climate would be either too hot or too cold to support life.

    That's because the earth is where we evolved. It's makes sense that so many things are "tailored" for us. But if evolution is true, we must find many imperfect functionalities on this planet (since we are a work in progress), which there are plenty of examples of that as well.

    We evolved here, that's a proven fact. The nature and cause of that evolution is still being researched.

    -Sab

  • NomadSoul
    NomadSoul

    Philadelphia Ponos,

    You don't even understand you're own argument. I won't waste my time any longer.

    Edit: On you that is, will keep wasting time on this forum.

  • sabastious
    sabastious
    Life is what matter does!!

    But what is the cause of all the matter! See the Bible is true, and if the Bible is true then the Witnesses have the truth!

    YAY! I get to pet tigers for eternity.

    -Sab

  • NomadSoul
    NomadSoul

    But I will waste my time with Sabastious,

    When creationist claim that the Earth is a at a "perfect distance" from the Sun, they saying just that. That is at a perfect distance. And they like to quote Astronomers that say that if the Earth was closer to the Sun or farther life wouldn't exist. That's how they twist it. But they don't look at the numbers. If it was 10% farther than the sun there wouldn't not be life. Okay, what is 10% of the distance of the Earth to the Sun? How many Earths can you fit in the 10%, 9%,8%,7%,6%,5%.....etc...

  • Nathan Natas
    Nathan Natas

    Do you enjoy dressing up in Victorian Fashions as much as you enjoy thinking in Victorian paradigms?

    Have no fear; when you enter your teen age years and begin to acquire a little experience in the world, your mind will begin to function more competently.

    In the meantime, you might find it beneficial to study the many kinds of parasites that exist and how wonderfully they fit into Our Designer's Grand Plan.

    When hydrogen atoms are subjected to sufficient pressure and temperature, they begin to fuse into helium. This process of fusion and the process of radioactive decay combine to give us all the elements that exist. When certain elements are brought together in the right circumstances, life arises, and if life endures long enough, self-awareness and intelligence result. All this happens without the intervention of Your Grandpa In The Sky; it is a purely MECHANICAL process, like a rock rolling down a hill, but far more complex and thus far more rare.

    I am convinced that we will discover life on at least one of the moons of Jupiter, if nowhere else in our solar system. I understand chemistry, geology and biology. "Survival of the fittest" is another way of saying "poorly adapted life-forms die out sooner." The ones that live aren't BLESSED, they're LUCKY.

    We have only just begun to look. To say that there are thousands of planets with no life on them is ridiculous - we haven't really looked at them yet. There are billions and billions of stars in our cosmos, and some of them will have a piece of rock orbiting "at just the right distance" with "just the right temperature" and "just enough water" for life to arise. It will likely be carbon-based life, because carbon is uniquely qualified to support lifeforms, but it may well look like something we have never imagined. I wonder if it will be superstitious too?

  • whereami
    whereami

    This guy is not here to discuss. He's hear to stir the pot. He's made up his mind and he's not budging. Typical apologist.

    Why feed?

    "Man has always required an explanation for all of those things in the world he did not understand. If an explanation was not available, he created one."

    -by Crawford, Jim

  • NomadSoul
    NomadSoul

    Nathan,

    Correction, theare are trillions and trillions of stars.

  • jaguarbass
    jaguarbass

    Radiometric age dating has put the earth at 4.5 billion years, plenty of time for something to happen

    Radiometric and carbon dating is very inaccurate and very unscientific.

    Read some basic Richard Dawkins, he will so much as tell you that, I doubt he realizes that though.

    The earth may be old, the earth may be young but datting rocks is quasi science, it does not follow the scientific

    method.

    The only evidence we have as to the age of the earth is recorded history, beyond that we havent a clue.

    Being born and raised as a JW I was forced to believe in unprovable information, I'm not jumping out of the

    frying pan into the fire and joining the cult of the quasi scientific old age earthers.

    You guys are just as certain of what you dont know today as you were when you were dubs.

    Some things never change.

    Real science gives us computers, medical therapys, atomic energy. The scientific method is provable.

    Quasi science gives us arguments that are never resolved in ones life time.

    Its good to have theories and wonder and explore. It would be good to be able to distingish reality from false information from some group

    with a vested interest blowing smoke up your rear end.

    Quasi scientist who date rocks and say the earth is billions of years old are only a small portion of the overall scientific community.

    But it seems they are missleading many with unscientific information.

    They are not challenged because there is no market or financial reward in proving the earth is 10 billions of years old vs one million

    or 10,ooo years old.

    There is a financial reward in finding fossil fuels. Finding fossil fuels is one thing, thats the reward. It doesnt matter how old the finder

    thinks the stones the fossil fuels are in. Its the ability that finds the fuel that is rewarded not the age of the stones.

  • sabastious
    sabastious
    When creationist claim that the Earth is a at a "perfect distance" from the Sun, they saying just that. That is at a perfect distance. And they like to quote Astronomers that say that if the Earth was closer to the Sun or farther life wouldn't exist.

    Ok, so they are saying that the earth was plopped in this gallaxy by God. The first thing that comes to mind is why the universe is so immense. Billions of gallaxies created. Why did God spend all that time creating all that for us? Seems like overkill, how long before we get to utlilize that real estate?

    The "earth plop" theory is ridden with contradictions with reality, it would seem. It is an ineffcient waste from an intelligent perspective. God doesn't seem to mind allowing us the capability of seeing the immense universe, but leaves us in the dark as to what it's purpose is. This whole explanation is too far fetched and contradictory for me.

    -Sab

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