I'm Starting To Understand Atheist and Evolution

by Philadelphia Ponos 106 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • Philadelphia Ponos
    Philadelphia Ponos
    learning something on your own instead of being spoon fed is much more satisfying.

    How can I learn on my own why YOU believe in the evolution theory? The only source from which I can learn why YOU believe in the evolution theory is from YOU. Unless YOU are the author of the books and sites that are being linked, they will answer none of my questions. I'm not trying to find out what the evolution theory is, as some of you seem to think, I'm trying to find out why YOU as an indiviual choose to believe in the evolution theory despite the structure and organization we see in nature which points to intellegent design and desipte the evolution theory's many anomalies. So far no one has answered that question. (not including post with name calling and sarcasim in which I didn't fully read and/or ignored)

  • NomadSoul
  • Murray Smith
    Murray Smith

    I believe that conceptually, the theory of evolution fits the evidence . . . evidence that I have spent countless hours researching.

    Question answered.

    Luvonyall - MS

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    I believe it, because that's where the evidence points - genetics, fossils, extinctions, similarity of many human societal traits to chimp society, whose dna is most like ours, similarity of other human traits to various traits of various animals. The adaptation principle. The present complexities can be seen to have been built on previous models, w many, many gradations, or links.

    There is absolutely no evidence of god doing it, no tracks, no god tracks. To me, there is a force behind the whole universe which seems to be reaching or pushing upward to higher goal of some kind. I'm not exactly an atheist, although i what i believe is behind it does not resemble your standard god.

    S

  • NomadSoul
    NomadSoul

    LOL

  • HintOfLime
    HintOfLime
    despite the structure and organization we see in nature which points to intellegent design

    Really, the same old creationist arguments that have been shattered to peices before to anyone who's been paying attention...

    If "structure" requires a designer, then who designed the designer? If it is true for us, then it is true for any god, who must be even more intelligent, suggesting an more complicated design.

    Belief in god does not solve the problem it pretends to solve. It just out-sources to fantasy land.

    Crystals such as snowflakes have an organized structure. Does God sit in heaven making snowflakes all day? Or can natural laws allow for the production of structure and complexity on their own?

    - Lime

  • poopsiecakes
    poopsiecakes

    Ok...I'm still in the process of learning myself. The more I learn, the more evolution seems not only plausible but very probable. When I came out of the JW's, I didn't hate god. I really had no feelings one way or the other. In fact, for a long time I defended witness beliefs but once I started pulling at some threads and the witness tapestry began to unravel, I started pulling at other threads too and guess what...they started to unravel too. The fact is that most people who believe in god believe because of a holy book. In my case, that book was the bible and I'd wager that's where you cull your beliefs from. Do yourself a favor and examine the bible critically to see if there's anything to base a belief in a higher power on. Then compare those reasons to other holy books that other religions use to base their beliefs on. Then think about what the ancient Romans and Greeks based beliefs in their gods on. Then, when you realize that maybe what you believe to be facts are, in fact, fables you may be ready to examine other thoughts about the origin of life.

  • wyorobert
    wyorobert

    The question I have to ask at this point is does any of it matter to you if it is true or not. There was no life on earth for about 1.5 billion years. It was the perfect distance from the sun for a very long time. It isn't really that hard to imagine that exactly the right circumstances finally occurred for just the simplest of life forms. An unimaginable period of time has passed since then.

    If I'm not mistaken, man learned how to make industrial diamonds because a meteor created them by accident. Diamonds formed out of seemingly nothing, then by backtracking they followed a process and learned how to create diamonds. By the way there is life in the deepest part of the ocean under unbelievably high pressures near vents that have incredibly high temperatures. For all life that exists near those vents, they are at exactly the right depth and extreme temperatures. Did God put the vents at exactly the right depths or did life adapt to those extreme conditions?

    I also want to say that I'm pretty sure most scientists think that if they find a planet just like this that is the right distance from the sun, there is a pretty good chance that there will be life. They are looking for those situations all of the time.

    There is also the possiblity that life was transported from another planet by a comet hitting earth and spreading life in that way. Sort of like a bird eating a fish and transporting eggs to a remote lake and life begins again. There are a lot of possiblities for how life began. It's just that a lot of us have a hard time believing that God appeared out of gas and smoke and created the earth by magic. I understand that from your vantage point this makes no sense. From where I stand and many others there needs to be some logic. To say that science makes no sense when it is backed by real evidence and then say God exists even though there is no evidence just doesn't work for me. The wonderful part of science is that it tries to discover the real truth as new information comes along.

  • FollowedMyHeart
    FollowedMyHeart

    Things about God just don't make sense to me. So I have just started exploring the what-if-there-is-no-god idea. I have questions like: Life forms on earth are so complicated, how did it evolve if there is no god? So I've started reading. There are a lot of good sources on this post that I am looking forward to examining! Thanks, everyone!

  • tec
    tec

    I'm sure someone already mentioned this, but it isn't a choice between God OR evolution. That would be like saying it was once a choice between God OR the earth orbiting the sun.

    The difference is that evolution is a theory and there are probably some things/details about it that are wrong, or at least as of yet undiscovered.

    But there is no threat to the existence of a Creator... even though some people on both 'sides' argue that if one is true, the other is not.

    Tammy

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