How Would you Interpret the Sign of the Last Days?

by Mr. Falcon 99 Replies latest watchtower bible

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  thetrueone

  The other thing too is while its true that preaching the good news of the kingdom is a feature of the last days

  The WTS is full of self promoting propaganda.

  As its been clearly shown take any era or segment out known history and you'll see that the signs of the times

  could very well be at that time, even biblical times if you wish. 1914 by the WTS. was a calculated but deliberate

  fraud that the WTS. used and still uses to self acknowledge itself.

  Why wouldn't a publishing house make up its own self supporting doctrines into what they were doing when their

  actions are preconceived to increase the proliferation of their own published literature ?

  Any person with a semblance of analytical observation can see what the WTS. is endeavoring to do.

  Finding people that will believe in their presenting bullshit is what they have always been about, once they

  snare individuals then exploit them for work and money.

  That is their sole mission which is snare, indoctrinate and then exploit, all the while pumping up the power and self

  pertaining image of themselves.
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  Mr. Falcon

  fade away & unshackled - I myself feel strongly that the media does sensationialize the bad news. Now I'm not downplaying the tsunamis, tornados and other horrific disasters; they actually happened and were devastating. But the news is presented in a Barnum & Bailey format designed to draw revenue.

  "The earthquake disaster in Japan is brought to you by Pepsi! We'll be back after the commercial break!"
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  Mr. Falcon

  Peace and Security is a tenent of government which has been around since the days of Jesus. Just another "thing to look out for" that is always there to see in the first place.

  Sab, do you think that perhaps this is further reinforcement to Christians to "not put their trust in noble men" and not an actual prophetic saying?
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  Mr. Falcon

  The WTS is full of self promoting propaganda.

  thetrueone - This fact is undeniable. Contrary to what the WTBS teach, everyone on earth is NOT familiar with JW teachings. The majority of people who know about the Witnesses only see them as a oddity.

  Perhaps they think that if they keep hardcore pushing these wacky teachings, it will result in a self-fulfilling prophecy and come true? Who knows.
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  Terry

  Jesus' words and warning obviously pertain to the 1st Century and have been broadened and extrapolated for subsequent times.

  I don't know when it became obvious to the christian church that Jesus wasn't really coming back "soon".

  At some point the leadership threw up their hands and started backpeddling.

  RE-interpreting like crazy the words of Jesus became non-temporal (unhinged from his own era) and spiritualized.

  Sure, Jesus was coming back "soon" but a later kind of soon!

  A hundred years past. Two hundred years. A thousand years. Two thousand years.

  All during that time trusting and faithful christians were convinced beyond all doubt THEIRS WAS THE TIME OF THE END.

  Every generation christians were wrong.

  They continue to be wrong.

  Why?

  Those "signs" are over. They already happened.

  You can't keep looking to the future for what has already ocurred in the past!

  I can remember in 1968 just as the big Hoopla over 1975 was gearing up....the Organization was throwing out all kinds of secular cherry-picked quotations about "Famine 1975" (the world would starve), immorality, World War III, and so on.

  They "proved" the world could not continue past the Fred Franz magic year (1975) and their convincing rhetoric got a lot of people buzzing with enthusiasm.

  All of this was repaid (as always) with a big goose egg "happening". Zilch came of it.

  Any christian can always come up with 99 convincing reasons for anything and they'll still be wrong.

  The problem is with scripture. The bible is just not what everybody thinks it is. There are a lot of myths, rumors, word-of-mouth stories written down. But, facts? Fuggitabout it.
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  unshackled

  No, not at all, unshackled! I want all viewpoints on this.

  Okay cool, Falcon. Didn't want it perceived like if I appeared in a thread on quilting and said "quilting is boring! How dumb." (Which it is. But that's not the point.)

  The bible is just not what everybody thinks it is. There are a lot of myths, rumors, word-of-mouth stories written down. But, facts? Fuggitabout it.

  Also...what Terry said.
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  still thinking

  While I agree that world events have always happened, and the media is bringing it to our attention more so is therefore instilling fear....at the same time you have a desensitizing effect. Sorry for the copy and paste. I have just taken a small part.

  Desensitization and Media Effects

  Desensitization is a psychological process that has often been involved in explaining viewers' emotional reactions to media violence. Research onemotional reactions to violent messages has been concerned with the possibility that continued exposure to violence in the mass media will result in desensitization, that is, that exposure to media violence will undermine feelings of concern, empathy, or sympathy that viewers might have toward victims of actual violence.

  To understand the effects of repeated exposure to violence, researchers have suggested that viewers become comfortable with violence that is initially anxiety provoking, much as they would if they were undergoing exposure therapy. According to Gordon Paul and D. A. Bernstein (1973), exposure therapy is widely regarded as the most effective clinical therapy for training individuals to engage in behaviors that were previously inhibited by anxiety responses. Originally, researchers emphasized a therapeutic counterconditioning technique known as "systematic desensitization," in which the patient was gradually and systematically exposed to a graded series of anxiety provoking objects or situations. Many researchers, including Edna B. Foa and Michael J. Kozak (1986), have demonstrated that simply exposing a patient to frightening stimuli , regardless of whether it is presented in graduated form, will significantly diminish the anxiety or negative affect that the stimulus once evoked. This logic may be applied to the effects of repeated exposure to media violence.

  Most of the early work on desensitization to media violence, such as that conducted by Victor B. Cline and his colleagues (1973) and Margaret H. Thomas and her colleagues (1977), involved exposure to rather mild forms of television violence for relatively short periods of time. These studies indicated that viewers who watched large amounts of media violence showed less physiological reactivity to violent film clips , compared to viewers who watched only small amounts, and that general physiological arousal decreased as viewers watched more violent media. Children as well as adults are susceptible to this effect.

  Maybe this is our false sense of peace and security....we are becoming more and more tuned out to the world because we are overwhelmed by it.

  Just putting an idea out there...what do you think?
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  still thinking

  Terry

  Any christian can always come up with 99 convincing reasons for anything and they'll still be wrong.

  What makes you so right?
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  Mr. Falcon

  I was just about to type "Where's Terry?" and WAH-LAA..... there he is.

  

  Like a good independant thinker, Terry is there....

  The more I look into history the more what you guys are saying makes sense. In the past 2,000 years everyone and their grandmothers were proclaiming that they would be the ones to see the ending credits on this world. And now they're all dead. Brilliant. But it easy to get sucked up into that extremist line of thinking. But logic is a good cure for that; you just got to accept it and let it do it's thing.
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  Mr. Falcon

  unshackled - You and Cheez have my permission to derail any thread I create. And where the devil is Cheez, anyway?