FALCON:
| Larsinger58 - Thank you for your commentary. I honestly never even considered all of what you are claiming, but it is extremely interesting. The persecution of the Jews during WWII didn't encompass the entire Jewish race, but then again, the destruction of Jerusalem didn't include the entire Jewish race alive at that time either. That is a damn interesting analysis you make. Yes, it is a focal interpretation. Gog of Magog which was the German Nazis and WWII is the setting of the great tribulation, thus the Jews in Europe, Eastern Europe primarily. The new "Judea" would be the primary resettlement of Jews in exile, and Warsaw, Poland became the anti-typical Jerusalem. The fulfillment of the prophecy at Zechariah 13:8 that says two thirds of the Jews would be exterminated and then one third would be preserved and restored to their homeland reflects the six million out of nine million Jews that died in the Holocaust. So it is considered to be fulfilled focally in the context of Nazi Germany and WWII, Eastern Europe, the death camps, etc. However, if what you say is correct, does that mean that the Jews during the Holocaust and the State of Israel are still God's chosen people? What about what Jesus said when he told them that their "house is abandoned to them." What do you think he was referring to there? |
Yes, good point. But Jehovah did abandon the Jews and their house causing the "appointed times of the nations" to take place. But only for an appointed time. When Jesus said their house was abandoned to them, he didn't say forever. Following scriptures it is clear there was an abandonmnt, an exile followed by a sword, but also the promise of restoration by a remnant. Allow me to quote that:
ZECH 13:8 "And it must occur in all the land," is the utterance of Jehovah, "[that] two parts in it are what will be cut off [and] expire; and as for the third [part], it will be left remaining in it. 9 And I shall certainly bring the third [part] through the fire; and I shall actually refine them as in the refining of silver, and examine them as in the examining of gold. It, for its part, will call upon my name, and I, for my part, will answer it. I will say, ‘It is my people,’ and it, in its turn, will say, ‘Jehovah is my God.’"
That is, two thirds of the nation would expire and be exterminated and one third would be preserved. That is fulfilled by the well known six million Jews that died in the Holocaust out of an estimated 9 million; just as the Bible prophesied. Further, the State of Israel was established right on the heels of the Holocaust as prophesied and received God's blessing.
So yes, there are TWO COVENANTS that were in place until 1996, a Christian covenant with the focal covenant with JWs as the temple sect, and the natural Jews. Note the "disgusting thing in a holy place" has a double fulfillment with the focus of Nazis on both Jews and JWs. JWs in the spiritual concept would be like the tribe of Levi, a special tribe handling special, sacred things, like the preaching of the "good news", but the covenant is with all of Christianity,which is also considered God's house.
So yes, the Jews were still recognized as God's chosen people, as well as JWs, but only until 1996. That covenant is now "fulfilled" and thus ended. The Covenant is fulfilled in spiritual Israel, a combination of Jews and gentiles, specificall 10% natural Jews and 90% gentiles (see Isa 6:13)
ISA 6:13
13 And there will still be in it a tenth, and it must again become something for burning down, like a big tree and like a massive tree in which, when there is a cutting down [of them], there is a stump; a holy seed will be the stump of it."
The stump is natural Jews, 144,000. The branches made up by gentiles is 90%, 1,296,000 making up the total kingdom of 1,440,000. The two covenants, the two staffs, are now one.
LS