Christians Please Explain

by AK - Jeff 134 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  NewChapter

  If the people in your scenarios above were following the one they claim to be following, then most of those problems would not be worth a mention, at least in terms of coming from faith.

  Yet they would say the same thing about you. As I said, I really don't mind when people believe, and I don't disrespect them. I am just so TIRED of the fundamentalists that have so much political power. Many Christians are tired of them too. They are tired of being misrepresented, and they are tired of catching the darts that are really meant for the Bachmanns of the world. I can understand that. Groups are always defined by their most vocal, powerful elements.

  NC
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  tec

  Groups are always defined by their most vocal, powerful elements.

  This is true, I agree.

  Though personally, I'm not so worried about how I am represented, or a group even. Why should anyone care about that? I am more concerned with how Christ and God are misrepresented, slandered, lied about... by those who purport to love and follow them. But regardless, God is right there for anyone to see, if they want to. See Christ, see God.

  Peace,

  Tammy
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  Meeting Junkie No More

  IMHO, nothing to explain. Religion and science are different categories we use to explain things we don't understand. These categories reside in our heads, to explain reality, which also exists, wait for it, IN OUR HEADS.

  Religion and science are different ways of thinking about the world - all credit to Dorothy Rowe and her amazing book 'Why we Lie' -

  Therefore, if an archbishop and an atheist take a walk through some botanical garden, the archbishop will see the wonders of creation and the atheist will see the evidence for evolution.

  One is not better or worse than the other - religion requires faith, science requires proof. Example: To find out HOW a person died, we use science, to find out WHY people die, you need to use faith. Most people use aspects of both systems to construct their worldview. When we feel our world view is threatened, we launch attacks and criticisms on those who do not share it. There you have it! (AH, PROBABLY NOT!)

  Just my 2c. Very interesting discussion!
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  NewChapter

  to find out WHY people die, you need to use faith

  It doesn't take faith to understand why we die.
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  Meeting Junkie No More

  New Chapter:

  Not in the sense why the human being dies, but why there is death at all...if you understand my drift - that is the crux of the whole debate in my view, is making sense of death, or explaining death to ourselves. Hope that clarifies.
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  AK - Jeff

  Death cannot be explained - it just is!

  Dogs and lions die. People die. All animals die. End of story. There is no 'making sense of it' - anymore than there is making sense of eating or walking upright. It just comes with the territory of Homo Sapiens, as with all other mammals, and all other life on the planet. All have the same end - death. We are simply not immortal. It is a concept created by culture and superstition.

  Putting our trust in some Holy Writ to explain it away is a waste of time and energy. That book was written by another man, long before you, who also feared death and wanted to 'make sense of it'. The superstitious are driven by that fear to find an answer. Problem is: All the answers are made up answers to satisfy the fear, and not to satisfy reality.

  Men fear Death, as children fear to go in the dark; and as that natural fear in children is increased with tales, so is the other. ~Francis Bacon, Essays
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  PSacramento

  Jeff, do you beleive we are energy? comprised of energy?

  If so, does that energy "die"?
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  AK - Jeff

  Yes, in a way PS.

  I think that all matter is energy in one form or another. However, life is a transient state of energy, not a permanent one. Just as a tree is composed of energy while alive, but it turns to dust when dead, but still another form of energy. All matter is energy. Not all matter is alive.

  I know that is not the most scientific way to state it on short notice.

  Jeff
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  PSacramento

  Do you believe that energy is alive?
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  Meeting Junkie No More

  Not all matter is alive

  I think science is working on this as we speak!