Do you hate God

by Star tiger 225 Replies latest jw friends

  • TheUbermensch
    TheUbermensch

    I hate delusion.

  • No Room For George
    No Room For George

    I don't hate God, but if he and Christ exist, I'm deeply disappointed in both of them. I feel like they let me down. The other side of me is thinking that maybe it's not their fault, and maybe I had too high of an expectation of them.

  • factfinder
    factfinder

    Jonathan

    - I do not really understand the trinity version of God. that is the version you most likely were raised in and so you are used to it.

    But Jewish people have a different concept of God altogether , and I don't think you understand the Jewish view and why it is so hard for a Jewish person (like myself) to understand or want to worship a triune God. You may want to check out the Jewish view of God and Jesus at sites such as www.whatjewsbelieve.com and www.beingjewish.com

    To say though, that Jews have a distorted idea of God is judgemental and wrong! And since Jehovah is the creator and king of the universe and is all-knowing and allmighty I would hardly say He is limited.

    No Room For George

    - I also feel like you, I am very disapopointed In Jehovah and Jesus. But I have doubts that there even is a Jehovah and I lost my faith in both Jehovah & Jesus when I discovered the TATT.

    I don't think I have extreme hatred for God. But I am still angry at him. And the Biible does not carry much, if, any weight, to me anymore. I'm just not sure what I believe, but I have mostly negative views toward God.

    designs,-

    I remember that prayer, and the one over the wine for passover! And of course the Shemah: Hear O Israel, The Lord our God, The Lord is ONE.

  • jonathan dough
    jonathan dough

    To say though, that Jews have a distorted idea of God is judgemental and wrong! And since Jehovah is the creator and king of the universe and is all-knowing and allmighty I would hardly say He is limited.

    You're twisting words and taking this out of context. If Christians are judgmental in believing the Jewish monotheistic non-trinitarian version of God is incorrect, then the same is true of Jews who think Christian views of a triune God is a distorted version. You can't have it only one way. Technically, Jews are antichrist by definition. Having an opinion is not being judgmental. If that is being judgmental then Christ and all the apostles and all Christian preachers are judgmental, but the Bible doesn't prohibit that because it doesn't fall within the NT definition. Telling people to "repent for the Kingdom is near" would be judgmental of a kind, but if that is the message, which it is, then Christ wasn't referring to that kind of opinion when he said "do not judge." And if you read what I wrote, I didn't say YHWH Himself is limited. Of course not, but the Jewish monotheistic version, from their point of view, definately is limited because it is only one-dimensional and non-salvific as Christian theology contemplates. The same is true of the JWs' distorted teaching and understanding of their nontrinitarian YHWH. It's limited. By claiming the Word was a mere created angel they insult God and bring the second person of the Trinity, the Word, the Son, down, when in fact He is God the Son, deity. You want to shift to the proper point of view. More info and lots of sites dealing with these issues right here:

    http://www.144000.110mb.com/directory/jesus_God_deity_jesus_christ_jehovahs_witnesses.html

  • still thinking
    still thinking

    I love it when trinitarians tell others THEY are twisting words....LOL

  • No Room For George
    No Room For George

    love it when trinitarians tell others THEY are twisting words....LOL

    LOL, Now ain't that b#$#!!!!

  • White Dove
    White Dove

    Ceiling Cat listens to everyone's prayers.

    Have faith in her!

  • factfinder
    factfinder

    Jonathan-

    Referring to Jews as antichrist is both anti-semitic and insulting. everytime I try to reason with someone who is a trinitarian it always comes down to the trinitarian is right, and everyone else is wrong.

    Jonathan, Jewish people do not go around preaching to "Christians" and telling them that their belief in God is wrong. Jews believe the Jewish view of God is right for THEM. Jewish people don't tell Christians what to believe or not to believe.

    But it is offensive to a Jewish person when a trinitarian tells them they are wrong in their beliefs.

    I feel like this is a repeat of my trying to talk to godrulz.

  • Shanagirl
    Shanagirl

    Hi Star Tiger, I don't hate God, (Light, Spiritual Love) This is the true God, and not Yaldabaoth,YHWH, Jehovah (Shadow, Darkness, Matter, Chaos). Evil came when the demi god Jehovah, YHWH, created the material universe and our earth, and all the misery that resulted. This demi god was not the God Jesus taught about. Jesus is of the God of Light. He never spoke of this demi god Jehovah as his Father. He came from the Source of Light and Love, and came down to earth to teach that we are all children of this Light. I've been reading some of the Gnostic Scriptures. Jehovah, the demi god creator of matter wants only to darken the Light from True God. Jehovah is the creator of all the beings of darkness who bring misery to humans.

    The Secret Book of John (Apocryphon of John)

    Peace be with you

    Shana

  • designs
    designs

    jonathan, godrulz, perry, stephen-

    Its staggering the ignorance of these guys. Fellas study up on Jewish prayers, Amidah/Yigdal, the daily prayers include the prayer for the Messiah.

    You guys bash the Watchtower for revising Scripture yet you do the very same thing.

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