Homework?
I thought the OP was about meeting similar minds in a fancy building.
Atheism 2.0
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cofty
I don't think there is a single point in his lecure I agreed with.
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Twitch
But, honestly, a lot of them are kicking the props out from under the support system which some very vulnerable people are relying on to get them through hard times, debilitating disease, tragedy, addiction and, certainly, personal guilt. It is ALL THEY HAVE.
Just out of empathy and compassion some consideration might well be in order before knocking the wheels off their "wheelchair" of hope.
A point well made, Terry.
I might make a slight distinction between debate by willing participants on a discussion board and what might be dogmatic intellectual honesty when face to face with the reality of suffering. But I have no doubt you understand what I mean.
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thetrueone
Qcmbr said ...
Maybe what we need are beautiful atheist meeting places, atheist charity events, atheist coffee mornings , atheist lectures on science. logic, art and beauty, atheist music and song..
We do they're called Universities and Museums.
I think where Botton is coming from is the art and architecture of religious buildings, noting the riches of the Catholic religion
and its grandiose churches and I see his viewpoint. There is no question that some of those places of worship are awe inspiring when
observing their inner and outer architecture, but there is something else happening there behind all the those beautiful buildings.
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Terry
debate by willing participants on a discussion board
mmmm, debate? More like bricks and broken bottles from where I'm sitting...
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thetrueone
This thread wandered way off topic from the original post.
The video on De Botton's speech should have been evaluated and discussed upon what he said in his speech.
Not necessarily centrally focused about atheism .
I encourage all to re-listen to the speaker on that TED program.
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Twitch
Yea, most if it ain't my style, so to speak.
I don't know if a service pack will fix Atheism 2.0. Looks like it got hit by a DoS attack, lol.
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N.drew
Read it. My little devil says he's an opportunist, and not much of a philosopher. He states a lot of obvious stuff. I think he wants the lovely rich ladies of his audience to send him some nice art works.
I took notes.
A sermon is for changing a life. A lecture only offers bits of information. An exaggeration to be sure.
He wishes for some atheistic sermons that provide guidence, morality and consolation. Hm. He believes in a "great truth". Made me think of the Nazarene.
What Q feels he is missing is "sycronized encounters" and "physical action that backs up a philisophical idea".
Mr. Botton said one profound thing from my pov. He said humans have become they who have their ideas in one area, but their behaviour with their body in another.
That's the problem.
The only thing I like about Mr. Bottom is he acknowledges there exist "matters of the spirit, mind and higher soul-like concerns".
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How do we know that the messiah Jaheshua has not come from the future?
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thetrueone
A link to Botton's web site
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thetrueone
Alain de Botton on Religion for Atheists
SUNDAY 22 JANUARY 2012 , 11.30 – 12.45pm
Conway Hall, 25 Red Lion Square, London WC1
Alain de Botton has been writing a new book for three years and finally it's ready for its UK launch - in a most appropriate place and format: as a secular sermon delivered from a pulpit to a congregation in an unusual 'church for atheists' called Conway Hall.
This is appropriate because the book is called RELIGION FOR ATHEISTS. Alain de Botton is a non-believer. Yet he argues religions have important things to teach the secular world. He's written a book explaining ways in which atheists should look to religion for some solutions to contemporary ills. In doing so, he hopes to move the tired old debate between atheists and believers onto more fruitful ground.
Blending deep respect with total impiety, de Botton proposes that agnostics and atheists should stop mocking religions and start stealing from them. For too long, he believes, we have faced a false choice between either swallowing doctrines or doing away with consoling and beautiful rituals and ideas.
In this secular sermon de Botton presents his vision for a far more interesting alternative where we look to religions for helpful insights into how to build a sense of community, make our relationships last, get more out of art, and overcome envy and inadequacy.
This sermon launches de Botton’s new book, Religion for Atheists: A non-believer’s guide to the uses of religion (forthcoming on 2 February 2012).