The Governing Body intends to announce significant changes in academic literature (DOCTRINES)

Maybe at this KM School they'll finally release a publication that is very much needed by the elders and would serve as a supplement to the Shepherding them Flockers book. It will be a full color brochure, illustrating approved and unscriptural sexual positions and practices for JWs. Also featuring detailed pictures and descriptions of what's included as "uncleanness" and "loose conduct," as well as the difference between "hard core" and "soft port." Instructions on how webcams are setup and how chat works will help the brothers to understand what people are talking about in JCs. And it will have an extensive glossary explaining useful terms in the fetish and bondage world.

The KM school would certainly have a "happy ending" if it concluded with this "release."

Sorry, did I officially take this thread too far?

blindnomore

wasblind, Regarding watchtower looking down on credit cards in the churches check page 2 on www.jehovahs-witness.net/2277755/2/Credit-card-machines-at-district-conventions.

To help in speculating future changes, consider some of major changes in the recent year.

(Official Changes)

Cancellation of the Book Study
Transferring of apointing the pioneer arrangement(from braches to local elders)
Changing the title of head of body of elders(presiding overseer to coodinator)
Generation doctrine
Promoting electronic use for their work

(Subtle Changes or Avoiding mentioning Areas)

UN being a Scarlet Beast(UN to Nations who attact the religion)
Timing of partaking(ended in 1930's to will eventually end. W11, 12/15 ph15, pg 25*)
Rank & File not representing the Watchtower Society.
Reporting Service time electronically.
Promoting BOE's absoulte authority over Rank & File.
Selling and closing branches.

3 things derived from offical changes: lessening and transferring legal liability(Watchtower to BOE), tightenning controlling, laying the foundation of borrowing the timing of its core doctrines .

from Subtle changes: Avoiding its legal liability and transferring legal libility to BOE, promoting potential GB members, tightenning controlling in local level, Polictical partnership with the Government.

Along with all the recent legal trouble, it will be only matter of time Watchtower turning into the 'Watchtower & Brumny(? or whatever Adam's last name is)Association Law Firm.' The rest are seperate entities(at least outwordly). Some of the subtle changes might be meterilized. Do not believe they will disassociate the inactive ones formally to avoid law suit. But inactives ones are DA'ed informally in the congregation. I've been hearing more and more of elders commenting on how some should be treated as apostate even though they are not df'ed or da'ed. That's the reason why some of you inactive ones are getting the shunning letters from your family members, I believe.

*At Pentecost 33 CE, that new operation began, but it will not continue forever. Baptism with spirit will cease.(not has but will)

sseveninches

I am pretty sure that 99% the "fading/closet" JWs who are staying inside the Org for friends and family (they can't bear to suffer the shunning) would quickly come out of the closet when presented with their 10% tithing bill from the KH and officially announce they have now disassociated themselves!

I agree about them coming out and leaving, but I don't agree about them being cheapskates...no one wants to give their money away to something they don't believe in, especially if that something has deceived them.

wolfman85

wasblind, my first language is Spanish so my WT library is in Spanish, but here are some articles about credit cards in Spanish. You can use google traductor to read them.

Ponderando las noticias
"Ore ahora, pague después"
? La frase "ore ahora, pague después" se publicó en titulares del "Inquirer" de Filadelfia que informaron acerca de un experimento eclesiástico que habría de efectuarse en breve. Un grupo de diez religiones de los EE. UU., entre ellas algunas confesiones principales luteranas, episcopales, metodistas y bautistas, han decidido ver cómo les va si hacen las colectas eclesiásticas mediante tarjetas de crédito. El experimento, patrocinado por el Concilio Nacional de Iglesias, estimulará a los miembros de las iglesias que en él participen a autorizar el traslado, mediante sus tarjetas de crédito, de una contribución específica a su iglesia mensualmente. La idea, dice un vocero del Concilio, es que "esto suministrará a la iglesia local ingresos regulares, prescindiendo de si la congregación local asista o no," especialmente en ocasiones de menos concurrencia, como en el tiempo de las vacaciones del verano. El informe sobre el experimento dice que los que se unan al programa estarán "dando a los negocios lo que pertenece a los negocios... una ganancia." ¿De qué manera? "Los bancos participantes cobrarán 65 centavos de dólar por transacción, y las compañías de tarjetas de crédito obtendrán fácilmente el 3 por ciento de toda donación." Es obvio que alguien se beneficia, pero ¿cuánto beneficio espiritual obtiene el que hoy va a las iglesias? w76 15/5 pag.300

-Ciertos clérigos de la zona neoyorquina son muy formales en cuanto a este asunto. Envían estados de cuenta mensuales a sus parroquianos recordándoles la cantidad que deben a su iglesia. Y en la prensa se informó que un predicador congregacional de Vermont, ha instalado una máquina para tarjetas de crédito detrás de la puerta del frente para los que prefieran usar este medio para contribuir. Muchísimas iglesias requieren o animan a sus miembros a pagar diezmos, es decir, a dar a su iglesia la décima parte de sus ingresos.

-¿Qué hay de los testigos cristianos de Jehová? ¿Cuáles de estos métodos usan ellos? En realidad, no usan ninguno de ellos, ni siquiera la práctica tan común de pasar un platillo de colecta. Entonces, ¿cómo consiguen los fondos necesarios para sufragar los gastos en que incurren al llevar a cabo sus actividades religiosas en una escala local, nacional e internacional?

-¿Se adhiere a estas normas bíblicas respecto a los gastos religiosos el lugar de adoración al que asiste usted? Si no lo hace, ¿cree usted que Dios se complace en que se asocie usted con una organización que hace caso omiso de las normas de su Palabra? w72 1/1 pag.27

Dinero eclesiástico
? Algunas organizaciones religiosas están yendo a nuevos extremos para adquirir dinero. La Iglesia de la Coronación de la Bendita Virgen María en Búfalo, Nueva York, ahora acepta tarjetas de crédito, no solo donaciones en efectivo. Un miembro del comité de finanzas dijo: "Una iglesia no puede sobrevivir con los donativos de 50 centavos [efectivo]." Las donaciones hechas con tarjetas de crédito son de hasta 30 dólares. Actualmente se cobra la entrada de los visitantes a la Catedral de Salisbury del siglo trece en Londres. Un artículo del Observer de Londres llama a esto "un último esfuerzo para hallar una manera de enfrentarse a la desesperada necesidad de fondos." g74 8/2 pag.29

These are some articles about the churches and credit cards. Sorry for not having it in English.

wasblind

Thank you Sir82, Blindnomore, and Wolfman85

That's alright wolfman , I'll find it in english

jus' knowin' their hypocracy can be seen is good enough for me

Just don’t bring back those nasty ass sub sandwiches put together with God knows how many bugger picking fingers in the back room!

Marvin Shilmer

http://marvinshilmer.blogspot.com

baltar447

Hoagies! With the wilted yucky lettuce. mmmm

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Desilusionnee

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blindnomore

sseveninches

wolfman85

wasblind

baltar447

donuthole

Marvin Shilmer

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