Why aren't you an Atheist?

by Bloody Hotdogs! 697 Replies latest jw friends

  • EntirelyPossible
    EntirelyPossible

    I don't believe I am at a stalemate

    Agreed. A stalemate would imply that you have, at some point, made rational, valid points on purpose.

  • EntirelyPossible
    EntirelyPossible

    No, I am saying that God always intended to use humans to dispense justice, but when we fail in that directive it's equalized by God. It's better if we just do our job in the first place.

    Where does the Bible say that?

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    Sab,

    "If I toture people to death, I should be tortured".

    Ghandi said: " An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind".

    You need to get past these ancient camel train justice principles and advance to something better.

  • frankiespeakin
  • kassad84
    kassad84

    As he thus made his defense, Festus said with a loud voice, "Paul, you are crazy! Your great learning is driving you insane!" - Acts 26:24

  • sabastious
    sabastious
    Ghandi said: " An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind".

    Ghandi was wrong on that one. Jesus did not say that he was replacing "eye for an eye" he was expounding upon it. How could he call himself the Son of God and the Jewish Messiah if he just throws out what his Father set down? That would just mean Yahweh was a bad God which would make him Satan, would it not? Eye for an eye is still in effect it's just not freely allowed to just anyone. Ever heard of licence to kill? The administration of Justice requires being applied THROUGH a structured entity like a police force or a intelligence agency of a government. A great many people on this planet have no idea what Jesus was talking about. You don't just sit down and take it up the tail pipe, that's not his message. His message is that you make the necessary sacrifices for the whole, not go down with the ship.

    -Sab

  • EntirelyPossible
    EntirelyPossible

    Ghandi was wrong on that one. Jesus did not say that he was replacing "eye for an eye" he was expounding upon it

    Sabby is wrong on this one, Jesus did not say he was expounding on an eye for an eye.

    That would just mean Yahweh was a bad God which would make him Satan, would it not?

    Of course not, there are plenty of shitty gods that aren't Satan.

    A great many people on this planet have no idea what Jesus was talking about.

    You are an excellent example of that.

    You don't just sit down and take it up the tail pipe, that's not his message.

    I didn't realize you were talking about the brown-eye.

  • sabastious
    sabastious
    Jesus did not say he was expounding on an eye for an eye.

    Jesus didn't say a lot of things because that's how God operates. Our existence is not about being told everything we need to hear, that's just wishful thinking.

    -Sab

  • EntirelyPossible
    EntirelyPossible

    Jesus didn't say a lot of things because that's how God operates. Our existence is not about being told everything we need to hear, that's just wishful thinking.

    Ah yes, God operates by not saying things so Sabby can come along and make up stuff that is exactly the opposite of what the Bible actually says, is completely made up or doesn't make sense.

    Sabby has created God in his image, irrational, made up and making stuff up and inconsistent.

  • sabastious
    sabastious

    EP you really are not qualifed to debate the Bible or God with me. There are many reasons for this, but none more obvious than you doubling down on the claim that the Serpent of Genesis was actually just exposing the lie of Yahweh. Anyone who would preach this is not just a devil's advocate, but an agent of darkness. The Bible is a document of brilliant light and therefore all it does is expose darkness and therefore exposes you. Darkness doesn't uncover light, it's the other way around.

    Here the sun has sunk under the earth and is therefore darkened. The name of the hexagram means literally "wounding of the bright"; hence the individual lines contain frequent references to wounding. The situation is the exact opposite of that in the foregoing hexagram. In the latter a wise man at the head of affairs has able helpers, and in company with them makes progress; here a man of dark nature is in a position of authority and brings harm to the wise and able man. I CHING 36

    -Sab

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