Why aren't you an Atheist?

by Bloody Hotdogs! 697 Replies latest jw friends

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  EntirelyPossible

  Not an attack, I'm using truth as a defense. Man up or go home.

  The only truth is that you are making stuff up, buttercup. I always knowmy points are hitting home when try to get nasty and personal.

  All war heroes get accused of murder, it doesn't make it so. War is complicated. I live in a country that killed many Japanese children, is Harry Truman a murderer? It wouldn't be a baseless argument, but it would lack vision and perspective.

  Yes, you do lack vision and perspective. Moses was not a commander, general, president or anything else when he murdered his first Egyptian. Your false equvalency is not working. Moses murdered. You condone murder. It's sick.
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  EntirelyPossible

  The bible contradicts itself, even in the OT, EP. How do you know which is truth? Why do you choose to ignore the 'good', in favor of the 'bad'?

  Hey, Jerry Sandusky also helped a lot of young men get awesome careers and get into college. Why is everyone so focused on just the bad?

  The point is, you pick and choose, same as everyone. That reasoning falls flat once you try to use it in the real world. See my example above.
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  sabastious

  Yes, you do lack vision and perspective. Moses was not a commander, general, president or anything else when he murdered his first Egyptian. Your false equvalency is not working. Moses murdered. You condone murder. It's sick.

  Outlaw posted his war record, so those should not be called murders. The Egyptian was the beginning of God's judgement on all of Ancient Egypt, they had gotten to a point where most of them deserved to die, especially the slave masters, the government and military. An Eye for an Eye principle was taking place and it ended in the destruction of a civilization, all directed by God. It was GOD who killed that Egyptian moreso than it was Moses. He was on a path of destiny. He "walked with God faithfully."

  -Sab
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  OUTLAW

  All war heroes get accused of murder, it doesn't make it so......Sab

  Theological forensic Historians say..

  Moses own men were so sick of the endless sensless murders..

  They killed him..

  ...................................................

  Thats from one of the learning channels I watch..

  ....................... ...OUTLAW
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  sabastious

  Outlaw, don't you know we live in a world of anti-semitism? What better way to smear the Jews but by telling that story about Moses their lead guy? I'm not saying it's false, but it's suspicious. I will need to look into it for a while before I conclude the same. For now Moses is what I say he is, to me. It also negatively affects the Chritians too, so it's super suspicious.

  -Sab
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  tec

  To be clear, Moses killed an Egyptian who was beating a Hebrew.

  You're calling it murder over defense of someone weaker. Why? I'm not saying it is one thing or the other, I sure wasn't there. But neither were you.

  As to 'murder' during war. If you take that route, then anyone involved in war who has killed someone on the opposing side... is a murderer. Bias to call Moses a murderer during war, but to not call the leaders and commanders in armies murderers as well.

  Peace,

  tammy
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  EntirelyPossible

  The Egyptian was the beginning of God's judgement on all of Ancient Egypt, they had gotten to a point where most of them deserved to die, especially the slave masters, the government and military.

  The Bible doesn't say that. You're making stuff up again. Moses hid the body and ran because he knew he had done something wrong.
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  sabastious

  The Bible doesn't say that. You're making stuff up again. Moses hid the body and ran because he knew he had done something wrong.

  No, he left the body and fled because he knew he was no longer an Egyptian, he also realized he never was one to start with he just existed with them. He would have been killed, so he left. You are obviously just trying to paint Moses in a bad light. Do you work for a anti-semitism group?

  -Sab
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  EntirelyPossible

  You're calling it murder over defense of someone weaker. Why? I'm not saying it is one thing or the other, I sure wasn't there. But neither were you.

  Defense of someone weaker doesn't make it murder. Moses killed someone who wasn't killing him and wasn't killing someone else. He escalated the level of violence far beyond what it already was. It was murder.
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  EntirelyPossible

  No, he left the body and fled because he knew he was no longer an Egyptian, he also realized he never was one to start with he just existed with them.

  Making stuff up again. Bible doesn't say he was no longer an Egyptian after the murder.

  Do you work for a anti-semitism group?

  Why would I be against semantics?