The basis for the search operators is indeed Boolean algebra.
You're da boss, man!
In my country the term "Boolean" to describe such operations wasn't used. it was all algebra. Hence my ignorance of it.
Eden
Numbers don't lie :The End of JESUS...
by raymond frantz 90 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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TotallyADD
They are not JW they are GB witnesses. Totally ADD
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AndDontCallMeShirley
You'd have to read every reference and determine Christ's status - even that type of evaluation would be subjective.
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It's simpler than that:
"Jehovah's Witnesses".
As any JW will attest to, if a JW talks more about Jesus than they do about Jehovah, JWs start to get very uncomfortable and will view the speaker with suspicion.
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Jeffro
As a nontrinitarian group, it's entirely unsurprising that JWs refer to Jehovah more than they refer to Jesus. But JW is also a Christian religion (and I really don't care about the people who have their 'special' definitions of a 'real' or 'true' 'Christian'), and anyone who says JWs don't also refer to Jesus quite a lot (or claims that there has been some calculated effort to reduce the amount he is mentioned) is a liar.
Whether JWs (or anyone) 'should' refer to 'Jesus' 'more' is entirely subjective, and lacks any meaningful benchmark anyway.
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EdenOne
As any JW will attest to, if a JW talks more about Jesus than they do about Jehovah, JWs start to get very uncomfortable and will view the speaker with suspicion.
ADCMS
That's entirely true. It's extremely rare that a document of the Witnesses doesn't mention the name "Jehovah" at least once. It's as if the name isn't there, there isn't a "seal of aproval". That's a supersticious use of the divine name, btw.
anyone who says they don't also refer to Jesus quite a lot is a liar .
Jeffro
Also true. I've heard the accusation that Jehovah's Witnesses aren't a christian religion in the field service a handful of times, especially from evangelicals and pentecostals. It doesn't take much to debunk such accusation.
Eden
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NeverKnew
ADCMS: I wasn't left with the impression that Eden was addressing the claim with respect to the numbers. It appeared that he was addressing the numbers with respect to each other. EdenOne is still mathematically correct with respect to J, JC, and C but this leaves out the synonyms and pronouns.
Lastly, I said that I believed this quantitative comparison could not be used as a barometer. Unfortunately a qualitative analysis would have to be used in order to support the claim and even that leverages subjective reasoning.
In my conversations with JWs, they seem to assure me that, as Christians, they follow Christ JUST like it says in the Bible (that they admitted to not having time to read)... *sigh*
So, I'm agreeing with you in part!
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NeverKnew
Such numbers are just trivia. JW's pay a lot more attention to Jehovah than they pay to Jesus Christ. The amount of Scriptures quoted from the OT in relationship to the ones quoted from the NT is very telling of that. We are much more 'Jehovists' than 'Christians'.
Eden
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Jeffro
NeverKnew:
In my conversations with JWs, they seem to assure me that, as Christians, they follow Christ JUST like it says in the Bible (that they admitted to not having time to read)... *sigh*
Every single Christian denomination (including the JWs) 'follows Christ JUST like their interpretation of the Bible'. There is nothing special or remarkable about this, nor is there anything especially good or proper or moral about Christians as distinct from anyone else.
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Jeffro
JW's pay a lot more attention to Jehovah than they pay to Jesus Christ.
So does the Bible. Horrible old Jehovah does a whole bunch of killing, usually for serious crimes like not being Jewish, or picking up sticks on the weekend, and poor old 'Jesus' doesn't get mentioned until more than half way through. And then he dies. Talk about antichrist!
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AndDontCallMeShirley
Never Knew, Jeffro and Eden One-
I'm not a statistician or mathematician and I found your perspectives really interesting. Thank you.
I look at primarily, what is the mindset of a JW based on their WT training? I think we all agree that, 1) JWs are Christians (even by nominal definitions), and 2) the reality is Jehovah gets more attention than Jesus.
I know from being a JW for my entire life (faded two years ago), that if a JW focuses more attention on Jesus than they do on Jehovah, that's looked at as very odd, and a JW will wonder what's wrong with the "brother" who's talking so much about Jesus? Is he becoming "apostate"? lol.