by cassuk11 107 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
cassuk11- You like making assumptions about others. Many of us felt that we had a personal relationship with Jesus while JWs and afterwards. Some still do. What changed for others were facts based on study of the Bible and observation of the world as it exists.
You have not explained your version of Jesus and why you think this version has more crediblility than someone else's version that is different than yours.
Yeha thanks designs. I see your point. When i was a witness over ten yearsa go. I never knew Yeshuah. I can only speak of his goodnessand love. If they seek him he will reveal himself. So its about entering in which im sure you have done. My question was why people turned their back on The Messiah, if they had a personal relationship beofre, why would they leave him just becasue they got out of an orginisation or denomination. See the dilema.It looks likes they never knew him in the first place or they did not have the love for him, knoweldge yes but love . If love never fails then those who got out of religion still love the Messiah right !. So they owe it to themselves to seek ,knock and ask. His light shines eternally and its not from a church window
Part of the delimna with that observation is the post JW is saying the JW never knew the Jesus they are now experiencing. Jesus is being defined differently.
Where some JWs have gone the route of JW-Christian-Born Again, Agnostic, Atheist etc. is because of serious study. The Gospels and the writings of Paul are defining a new religion based on creating strawman arguments about Judaism. That is a serious mistake.
Paul's argument for his version of the Messiah is- Original Sin caused by Adam and passed down to all of us: problem- Jews do not and have never believed in Original Sin as Paul defines it. No Original Sin then no Messiah who dies in substitution for it.
When I was a JW the FDS dictated to us how we must understand and believe in the bible, no question ask. After I left I decided to look into the bible myself. What a surprise, weird unbelievable stories. While seriously investigating God's word it became more like a writing of fairy tales, that started on some truth but grew to unbelievable claims. I do believe Jesus existed but someone in the caliber of Mahatma Gandhi the leader for the India people or M. King for blacks. A hundred years from now what kind of stories will be told about these men.
That question is nonsense. Me and the Messiah, we are still real tight.
jam did you never find anything in your life that helped you to believe?
ucan: give you an example. When I return from Vietnam (of course I
wasn't a JW but my sister was), she told me she prayed for my return
safely. Well, my mom a Baptist also prayed for me, my sister a JW.
Lets think about this, why would he bring me back safely and other
mom praying for their sons did not return.
Supposed miracles, are not miracles. Just random luck of the draw.
so i suppose that's a no
LOL, yes NO. I have really tried (bring Jesus back into my life) but my brain keep getting in the way.
