If God is real? (page 2)

Magnum

How could you, a supposedly all-intelligent, reasoning being, blame me for questioning or not believing? You know that for many years I sincerely sought truth and tried to believe 100%, but there were always major unanswered questions and things that didn't seem right.

If you say I should have believed because of religion, then I ask Why? I was a JW. They seem progressively more wrong and less believable as time goes on (could write a book on that). Their history is full of outright wrong teachings, loonie teachings, failed prophecies, etc. If you say 'look at nature', I say that I did, and I saw evidence of millions of years of horror, misery, and suffering. Nature is all about survival. Even so-called pretty flowers are "pretty" because they're screaming for survival. Their bright colors are screaming for insects to pollinate them lest the species die. Nature is cruel.

Please, before you destroy me, give me the reason(s) why I should have believed.

Perry

If he's real, and he's worthy of our worship, then he'll say, "Good job making the most of the gift of life I gave you. You were a good person, improved to your community, and enjoyed my gift. You figured out that's what life's all about, and you did it."

So according to your thinking, God only owes you an "atta boy" for the good you have done? Courts are not there to pat people on the back. If that is all God ever did, then God would be evil for doing nothing about the problem of evil. Instead of preventing it by makng it impossible like some SAY they would like, he has chosen to judge sin judicially and lawfully.

There is no contridiction here except in the case if God doesn't judge sin....especially since we can be sure that his other option was not exercised ie., making sin and evil an impossibility.

Each person should carefully ask himself if he or she has ever lied, stolen, hated on someone, lusted etc....since these are God's laws. And if we are judged by them; are we going to be guilty or innocent?

Viviane

What would I say?

Perry

Any you'll be screaming that for eternity if you die in your sins. God bled for us and actually became sin for us so that you would not have to rage for eternity ....but have peace.

Viviane

Perry, I really feel sorry for you, for a person that thinks telling someone that they will be tortured for eternity an acceptible thing. Would you be OK with being told that you would be orally raped to death for not liking the Red Wings? It's just as arbitrary.

Magnum

Perry, please convince me that God exists. Give me clear evidence that should lead me, a logical, rational thinker, with some background in science, to believe. I'm serious. I want to believe. I don't understand how you can have such strong belief. Do you have evidence that I don't have?

Perry

Magnum there is evidence everywhere. However, this thread is about God's Judgment. You must assume he exists to participate.

Magnum

Magnum there is evidence everywhere. However, this thread is about God's Judgment. You must assume he exists to participate.

Actually this thread is about being judged for "not believing". So it's senseless and illogical for you to say that I "must assume he exists to participate".

The OP question is for those who don't believe, but who after death find out God does exist.

Also, you say "there is evidence everywhere"; I've never found one piece of conclusive evidence, even though I've actively searched for many years.

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