If God is real? (page 5)

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Darth Frosty

Thanks...I found that video excellent.

How can inperfect humans be judged by perfect standars?

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suavojr

Perry, why don't you watch the video and actually think about that young man's impeccable reasoning

According to many religions GOD will sacrifice himself to himself to be able to forgive sin that he put on all humans because a man ate a piece of fruit he was told not to do. We had no choice to not be a sinner. Now we must believe in a creature he made from a sinfull woman. Then he made him die to be able to forgive humans that he made sinners. Christ was God according to the trinity doctrine.

Wonder why all life on earth dies, were plants and animals sinners? Why all the viruses, bacteria and diseases happen to saved people who accept Christ as their savior but get the same punishment as evil people.

I was sitting on my porch and saw my great-grandson ride his bike across the road. If a car had hit him I would be blamed for it. But why wouldn't God be blamed since he can stop any bad things from happening.

I'm having a hard time comming to any conclusion about a God, although I can't understand how the universe could be here without a creator, but have the same question about how a God could be here. I think I will just wait and see after I die, if there is any thing after death. Ohoooo! it's so hot here I should just believed.............

Ken P.

Perry

But Perry, we as humans in a free society have set limits to the amount and type of punishment we impose. The ultimate punishment is death.

Suavojr,

We are created in God's image. In other words, we are similar to him in many ways. One way we are similar, is that we have a conscience. Some inate knowledge of right and wrong.

Another way we are similar to God is that our soul (which is conscious) is eternal; without end once born. When the bible states that the wages of sin is death, it doesn't mean what heretics and naturalism adherents think it means. They assume incorrectly that in means anniliation. It does not.

The correct definition of death for man is this: a separation of your body from your soul.

This is clear by reading several passages, but especially in Rev. 6:9-11

And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? 11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were , should be fulfilled.

So, there is no conflict here. The wages of sin is death, but the gift God give is eternal life. Because of Jesus' blood, we actually get to CHOOSE in this life where we will spend eternity. It will be either in fellowship with God or separated from him and everything that can be considered "good" - since all good gifts come from him.

It is a frightful prospect to be separated from everything considered Good that we can imagine. Yet, when we reject God's desire to pardon us for our sins, few people realize they are actually rejecting all that is good, since God is good.

cofty

we actually get to CHOOSE in this life where we will spend eternity

Perry - your moral compass is no better than a Taliban preacher.

Perry

Coft,

You'd be the first screaming for justice if your car got stolen. Yet, you deny God that which you would reserve for yourself - God has the right and the OBLIGATION as God, to judge sin.

You want your cake and eat it too. Funny thing is - that God really does offer a cake and the opportunity to eat it too. However, it is only through faith in Jesus' blood.

Your route - self justification was rejected at the cross. Man cannot justify himself before a righteous and thrice holy God. He needs an executive pardon....which is what God is offering by means of Jesus.

cofty

You'd be the first screaming for justice if your car got stolen.

I would not be screaming for the thief to be thrown into a fire and kept alive in his torment forever, because unlike your god I am not a monster.

At least the worse tyrants in human history were finished with their hapless victims at death.

I do not need any "executive pardon" from the sick fantasy you call your god. He is beneath the contempt of all sane and loving people.

designs

Boy does someone not understand their Bible. Jonah 3; Lev. 5; Nu.16.. Drinking blood was specifically prohibited, Lev.17, which shows Jesus was not who he claimed to be.

You might want to study up on Teshuvah.

Pa-reem S'fa-tey-nu

kassad84

There are many other explanations of hell. This is the most famous of them but not the only one. No one really knows until he goes to the otherside. if God is real and He is love personified, He will be merciful more than the best that any human being can be.

http://oca.org/orthodoxy/the-orthodox-faith/spirituality/the-kingdom-of-heaven/heaven-and-hell

If God is real?

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