If God is real?

by suavojr 108 Replies latest jw friends

  • Mikado
    Mikado

    Perry, why do you think there is a huge problem if God doesnt judge sin?

    honestly, that is a baffling opinion and statement...

    why do you need any deity to behave morally?

  • Perry
    Perry

    Me: What if a theif simply said that he wasn't guilty because it was the owner's fault who left his keys in the car that made it possible for him to steal it?

    You: The thief is guilty.

    If then, the theif is guilty, how can you make this statement:

    When a non believer or doubter says he/she does not believe. It means that person does not believe in sin,

    I personally think that we sin with knowledge of it regardless of whether or not we consider God. Our own laws assume knowledge of sins like stealing, etc. We have a con-science. We sin with knowledge.

  • Perry
    Perry

    Mikado - I already answered your first question.

    Mikado - Do you think you are a good person?

  • suavojr
    suavojr

    But Perry, we as humans in a free society have set limits to the amount and type of punishment we impose. The ultimate punishment is death. So if after death God is goin to judge us. How is it just to punish us for not believing, for not following sacred books that are full of errors, for enojying pleasures of life?

  • clarity
    clarity

    Darth thanx for posting that video ...luv that

    guy & his reasoning mind!

  • Mikado
    Mikado

    Perry,

    I have missed your explanation. Please tell me your particular reasoning as to why humans will be in trouble with no deity to judge them?

    what will you do if you get there and it's Allah, Isis, Diana,or Buddah, or the Easter Bunny for that matter?

    You only have this particular god due to the time and the place of your birth

    for your arguments to have any merit, you can't use scripture as your proof of evidence for a creator.

    fortunately I havent needed any imaginary friends to teach me ethics and morals. It's a major fallacy to confuse ethics with religion...

  • Phizzy
    Phizzy

    No need to defend myself for having no interest in something for which there is no proof.(Sorry , I have not read the thread,so this will have been said by someone already)

    If your hypothesis were true, God would not blame me for my position, a God of love would say "Well done, you led a good life despite having no fear or knowledge of someone like me".

  • cofty
    cofty

    Any you'll be screaming that for eternity if you die in your sins. - Perry

    Get help Perry, you are sick.

    A god who values the ability to belive incredible things is not worthy of our attention let alone our worship.

  • designs
    designs

    To the Evangelical the fear of unbelief is to frightening.

  • ablebodiedman
    ablebodiedman

    If after you die you find yourself in front a God ready to judge you. What will you say in your defense for not believing

    I think most people will say they never saw any evidence.

    A believer however, sees the exact same evidence that the non-believers either struggle to deny or completely ignore.

    Just read this forum if you want to see the excuses the non-believers are going to use.

    It is already written down by them as a testimony!

    As a believer myself, I find the overwhelming amount of evidence drives any thought of skepticism beyond reasonable limits.

    What Jesus Christ said would happen, is really happening!

    There is no longer any excuse.

    abe

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