by Simon 102 Replies latest social current
I haven't read all the posts here yet. I heard on the radio yesterday that Cosby had a comedy routine
on one of his albums (or live shows) back in the day where he discussed the concept of using Spanish Fly
to make his way through a group of women without their knowing it.
I haven't heard this routine. Can somebody verify this?
IF SO--wow.
From CNN today: The hits just keep on coming.
http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/bestoftv/2014/11/27/newday-candiotti-new-cosby-accuser.cnn
http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/27/showbiz/bill-cosby-umass-amherst/index.html?hpt=hp_c2
I remember the Spanish fly routine, that rumor is true. At this point there is very little doubt in my mind, too many women with the sane story, too many others confirming details, and no real denial from anyone.
As I’ve briefly mentioned previously, one of the way-cool things I Forrest Gumped my way into over the past two plus decades is that I’ve had the privilege to work with and learn from some of the best investigators on the planet. I am not qualified to untie their shoelaces, but I did learn a lot. Two of the tools investigators use to understand human behavior are the bell curve and the Pareto principle (20/80 ‘rule’). In other words, behaviors typically fall into predictable categories and for example, 80 percent of crimes are committed by 20 percent of the criminals (the Usual Suspects).
I avoided the Zimmerman and Wilson OPs, like the plague, because speculation about what occurred in 90 seconds is difficult if not impossible to determine. The facts and evidence are the only things that matter, and they were determined by forensics and adjudicated by juries which heard both sides. Having said that, what intrigues investigators, besides the facts, are the individuals involved, what is their history, their emotional and psychological make-up, etc. Or, as Dr. Phil states, the best determinant of someone’s future behavior is their past behavior.
Zimmerman, for example, had no history of racism or similar types of behaviors, even though some tried to label him as such. At worst he seemed to be an over-zealous protector of his community with potentially a cop wanna-be personality. Wilson was an honor student in high school and a respected and exemplary officer from all viewpoints. There is nothing in his history to suggest he was a racist or that he targeted blacks, and he had never used his weapon in the line of duty before – if I have read correctly.
Now, back to the Cos. He has a four decade long history of drugging, raping, and/or molesting women who considered him a mentor, if the accounts are true. Four decades. He settled a 2006 civil case in large part because the woman’s attorney had 13 other women who were lined up to testify that Dr. Huxtable did similar things to them. All of the women who have come forward, IMHO, are credible. View the CNN interview this morning of the black woman who felt the Cos’ love a couple of decades ago when she was an aspiring model, which seems to be one of his MOs. She clearly describes why she didn’t come forward (the Cos certainly ‘came’ forward).
LisaRose - "... too many women with the same story, too many others confirming details, and no real denial from anyone."
I gotta say; that's a difficult trio to argue with.
I'm rather shocked by that joke Terry posted. Is Cosby joking about using a rape drug? I didn't think he did material like that. I can't help but feel it's telling that he would joke about something like that. Certainly the juxtaposition of the current situation with that joke, that album cover and that album name is incredibly unfortunate.
I can't help but feel it's telling that he would joke about something like that
It comes across almost as bragging or arrogance at being untouchable.
The routine isn't even funny. It's just strange, awkward and bizarre.
Reading about this a bit more, it seems that Spanish fly was supposed to be something more like an aphrodisiac than a sedative. I feel like the joke makes a lot more sense with that definition because I couldn't understand Cosby joking about knocking out girls and getting lots of laughs. Plus, he was always supposed to be a family-friendly comedian AFAIK. Nowadays this would be considered politically incorrect but I can see it passing muster a few decades ago.
Yes, the drug knownas spanish fly was supposedly an aphrodisiac.
