Was Russell a freemason and an adventist?

by wholewheat 80 Replies latest jw friends

  • avengers
    avengers

    I always get similar reactions when I say things like this:

    Russell himself said and I quote him:

    " I am a Free Mason ".

    I didn't just suck that out of my thumb. Russell said that. So if Russell himself said he was a Free Mason, then how can you deny it? I'm not looking for a fight, but if I would come out and say I am a Jehovah's Witness and someone in the future would say, but he really wasn't, it would seem paradoxial to me. Please explain.

    The Watchtower is in the hands of the Masons, even though you might then say he's someone who believes in conspiracies.

    Who knows maybe the ones defending the Masons here are part of the Great Conspiracy?

  • simwitness
    simwitness

    Avengers --

    I didn't just suck that out of my thumb. Russell said that. So if Russell himself said he was a Free Mason, then how can you deny it? I'm not looking for a fight, but if I would come out and say I am a Jehovah's Witness and someone in the future would say, but he really wasn't, it would seem paradoxial to me. Please explain.

    Perhaps you would like to share your source for that quote? Simply saying that he said it, is heresay, and not "admissable" .

  • AngryXJW
    AngryXJW

    Avengers:_____


    CTR stated that he was a "Free Mason" (NOT "Freemason") in the similar context that many opposers of "Jehovah's Witnesses" state that they consider themselves to be one of "Jehovah's witnesses"._____


    BUT, you already know that, just like you know that you repeatedly misconstrue an innocent statement to mean something that it does not._____


    It never ceases to amaze me that you "conspiracy theorists" can't see beyond the end of your noses, so as to understand that your INTENTIONAL LIES give credibility and provability to the WBTS's warnings that apostates are liars._____


    IF ANYONE IS A PAWN OF THE WBTS, IT IS YOU FOOLS WHO GIVE THE WBTS EXACTLY WHAT THEY NEED TO SCARE DUBS AWAY FROM THE TRUTH!!!

  • LDH
    LDH

    MAD APOSTATE LIVES!!!!!

    (I thought you left....three or four times?!??!)

  • AngryXJW
    AngryXJW

    LDH_____

    I'm sticking around waiting on someone to show interest in your "insurance policy" threads, so that I can then see the "significance" that the existence of Church Insurance Policies have to whatever point it was that you thought so important._____
    _____


    By the way, YOU are only about a half-notch above the "conspiracy theorists", with your "CircuitLeasing Scam", and now with whatever point you were not able to make about "insurance"_____


    Maybe you could tie the two together and post an Automobile Insurance Policy._____


    That would really make Legal shit their pants ....... from laughing so hard._____

    Edited by - AngryXJW on 29 June 2002 10:12:9

  • professor
  • avengers
    avengers

    Okay then. Here are some of his own words:

    I suppose this is my imagination.

  • AngryXJW
    AngryXJW
    17. Fritz Springmeier, The Watchtower & the Masons, (Portland, OR.: self published), 1990, 1992; Ken Raines, "The Winged-Sun-Disc," JW Research, vol. 2, #1, Winter, 1996, pp. 22-24.




  • Farkel
    Farkel

    : Was Russell a Freemason and was he a member of the adventist church?

    No and Yes respectively. Now I have a question for you. Are you one of the shills at Watchtower Legal that pop in here from time-to-time?

    Farkel

    Edited by - Farkel on 29 June 2002 11:31:58

  • professor
    professor
    Only a FOOL would quote ANOTHER FOOL

    I am not quoting him. I simply posted a link to this research which you can examine and determine for yourself what you believe. The one you pointed out does seem to have the most flaws. Another page on the same site mentions that some of the information presented in that publication is suspect. I question what the extent Russell's association was with the Freemasons. I think there is a connection. The fact that Russell was an adventist was confirmed by the WTS.

    Fool!

    Avengers: the source of that scan would be helpful. How do you know these are Russell's words?

    Mr. T (er.. AngryXJW) Simma down now. Just Simma!

    Edited by - professor on 29 June 2002 11:56:0

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