More Than You "MAY" Know

by QUANTUM 67 Replies latest jw friends

  • QUANTUM
    QUANTUM

    This is not astrology we're talking about!

    Greek Poets. The writings accepted as inspired by the ancient Greeks took the form of poetry rather than of canonized scripture. The oldest surviving accurate source which precisely describes the constellations that Eudoxus received is The Phaenomena, by the poet Aratus. He summarizes Eudoxus' description of what the globe looked like, including which figures were looking at others, and even what colors some of them were. It is the very work which Paul quoted on Mars Hill (Acts 17:28):

    ...We all have need of God. For we are also his offspring;
    ... For himself it was who set the signs in heaven, and marked out the constellations...
    opening paragraph of Phaenomena, by Aratus

    We also have some knowledge of the constellations from other ancient people such as the Babylonians, Arabs, and Persians, but the Greeks apparently have the best preserved knowledge of just how to draw the figures. The extreme antiquity of the constellations means that the constellations predate Aratus by over 2000 years, about the same amount of time that the ancient Greece predates ours.

    Much more to come

    QUANTUM

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    Q

    Go ahead and have fun your way. I have some comic books that are more interesting to figure out, than reading about how little some spoiled rotten barbaric semitic savage knew about the universe.

    Here is a collection of hubble pictures. Now these are amazing. Solomon would have had an orgasm. Check 'em out http://heritage.stsci.edu/gallery/galindex.html Are there any signs in them from god?

    SS

  • QUANTUM
    QUANTUM

    I understand your problem ss...and your pictures are probably very nice but I have more important matters to attend right now...maybe someone else can come out and play with you.

    Josephus. The Jewish historian Josephus, who wrote in the first century A.D., had many records available to him which are no longer extant. He states that Seth and his descendants

    "were the inventors of that peculiar sort of wisdom which is concerned with the heavenly bodies, and their order. And that their inventions might not be lost before they were sufficiently known, upon Adam's prediction that the world would be destroyed at one time by the force of fire, and at another time by the violence and quantity of water, they made two pillars; the one of brick, the other of stone: they inscribed their discoveries on them both..." [9]

    Here we learn that not only had Seth and the other patriarchs invented the science of astronomy, but also that they wanted to preserve it through world destructions that Adam had predicted. The fact that they were willing to expend such an effort suggests that there was something much more than just usual astronomical discoveries, such as the length of the year, that they were trying to preserve.

    The fun is just beginning

    QUANTUM

  • QUANTUM
    QUANTUM

    One test of the Book of Enoch and for the thesis of this review is that the book claims that the constellations, or "signs," were shown to Enoch and this article proposes that they tell the story of the gospel throughout history. Surely then, we should find some reference to the constellations in that volume. Here we hit the jackpot because many of its chapters refer to the stars either directly or indirectly. While all of the scriptures use the same imagery as the constellations, the Book of Enoch is our "star witness" because its author uses the symbolism explicitly, even giving the names of the stars. We shall see in these articles that not only does Enoch testify of the constellations, but the constellations become yet another witness of the Book of Enoch.

    On key point is that the Book of Enoch states that an angel of God showed Enoch where to draw the constellation figures:

    For the signs, the seasons, the years, and the days, Uriel showed me; the angel whom the Lord of glory appointed over all the luminaries. Enoch 74:4-7

    Thus, this scripture states that the constellations (the "signs") were not just the work of great men, even like Enoch, but rather an angel revealed them to Enoch. When Enoch saw the constellations signs in the heavens revealed to him, he exclaimed:

    "I blessed the Lord of glory, who had made those great and splendid signs, that they might display the magnificence of his works to angels and to the souls of men; and that these might glorify all his works and operations; might see the effect of his power; might glorify the great labor of his hands; and bless him forever." Enoch 35:3

    We can see how closely this verse parallels Psalms which said the heavens declare the glory of God. When Enoch understood the true meaning of the constellations he blessed the Lord of glory for having made those splendid signs.

    The book of Enoch was rediscovered in 1821. Since the late 1800s and throughout the 20 th century, vast librarys of ancient writings have been discovered which are giving us a greater understanding of what the ancients knew and the source of their knowledge. The relationship we have to these ancient peoples is closer than you may care to think. However, the evidence is becoming overwhelming in favor of, NOT A MYTHICAL GOD, but one who has had a plan for his children ( offspring) from the very beginning and we are all apart of this GREAT design.

    QUANTUM

  • avengers
    avengers

    Is it possible to develop your gnosis while still being trapped within a religion?

    ??????

  • AlanF
    AlanF

    This fool Quantum sounds like a Mormon. Traditionally on the Net, Mormons have produced reams of meaningless gobble-de-gook about moronic mythological entities like the "prophet" Moroni. The doctrinal foundation of Mormonism is a very good joke, having been assembled from humble beginnings as a carnival huckster's sideshow, into an apparently serious religion. The gross dishonesty in Mormon self-history makes that in JW self-history look like child's play.

    AlanF

  • D8TA
    D8TA

    Leprachauns are real !!!! No, really...that ARE! See there's these uh, books that were discovered in...eh....1812, and they are the secret writings of the bible. No, REALLY! These "books", tell of the time when mankind could truly understand and comprehend the existence of Leprachauns.

    You want some refrences? Well...see, uh....only people like me can see errr...these "writings". All the other little kids can't. But they are real !

    They talk about constellations revealing little green men, who try to hide their Lucky Charms from children. " Magically Delcious, these marshmellows can only be given to children when Orion is hunting Leo." - MyBookOfBullShit chp. 1 vs. 1.

    So, all of you X-JW's and JW's...see, you're all trapped and still holding on to WTS ways of thinking....now, see, if you think like I do....You will ALL BE SAVED! It'll just cost you $1.99 each...and uh, you get a "support group" for your financial donation.

    Just remember kiddies, Leprachauns=Truth and MyBookOfBullShit=Salvation....just don't forget that $1.99.

    Viva La Leprachauns!

    Viva La Leprachauns!

    Viva La Leprachauns!

    D8TA

  • LyinEyes
    LyinEyes

    Don't forget your lucky charms, D8!!! Funny!!!

    I am with the other poster who has a simple mind, it is late, i cant sleep and my eyes are so blurred I cant read well. I didnt read all the post , but at this point , I really couldn't care less about things I don't know about . I prefer to be stupid, ignorant and in bliss.

    But , hey that leprachaun theory may be of interest to me at some future date. I will be sure to get back with you D8 if I need any help in research.

  • QUANTUM
    QUANTUM

    There seems to be an err of intolerance filtering in from the hapless quarters of X ville. "You're a lovely bunch of coconuts" but you don't seem to have enough red blood cells.....lack of transfusions I suppose.

    there is so much more to come that I hope you can all keep your dresses down. What you may think you know is alot different then actually knowing......Old Zeek said " it weren't my ignorance that done me up but what I know'd dat wasn't so"!......if you have the cognative ability to offer something of a positive and at least a partly educated response, we just won't be able to stop the fun tinker bell.

    QUANTUM

  • Robdar
    Robdar

    Is this some of Paul Twitchell's teachings?

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