Lust For Glory Alienating The Majority?

by Englishman 70 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse

  • DannyBear
    DannyBear

    LoneWolf,

    One of the best summations of the real issues here. Thank you.

    Danny

  • RevMalk
    RevMalk

    There are no real issues here. Someone screwed up, big deal, it's over now. You people act as if you've never made a mistake.

    I've had it with this place, and yes of course that will make you all happy.....get the silentlambs supporters out of here. That was the plan right?

    Well, history will speak for itself, and history will show who did the real work, and who really sacrificed their lives to help others.

    You guys are doing good work here. Inciting hatred and encouraging the mental breakdown of anyone who has a different opinion of you all.

    The thought of this board and this site standing for what is right is ridiculous.

    silentlambs will move on without any of your support, and furthermore as far as I'm concerned doesn't need your support.

    You people are all better off here, doing nothing for anyone, that's about all you're good for, so enjoy it.

  • Englishman
    Englishman
    I've had it with this place, and yes of course that will make you all happy.....get the silentlambs supporters out of here. That was the plan right?

    Hey, come on now Rev, if you have an IQ of 183 the you just know that is not the case at all.

    Englishman.

  • DannyBear
    DannyBear

    RevMalk,

    Your above post, ratify's everything we have been saying.

    A sad legacy you leave behind. Your IQ score, along with the blinder's you wear, have allowed serious tunnel vision to cloud your reasoning ability.

    Danny

  • RevMalk
    RevMalk

    I should have known I'd be attacked for that Englishman. Anything that makes you feel less than what you are, you must then attack right? Isn't that the mentality around here? I sure didn't expect it from you, but then again I guess you've been sucked right in with the rest. You are no better, as a matter of fact you're worse. You're suppose to be here as some sort of administrator, yet you lead these people right down the tubes with you. You should be ashamed of yourself.

    And furthermore, you claim that silentlambs needs new leadership. Who would that be, you? Forever changing your mind on things?

  • RevMalk
    RevMalk

    Danny, I don't have a problem with people not liking Bill, I really don't.

    I just think that this is all causing irreparable harm to all our causes. It makes us look stupid, because it is stupid.

    To keep going on and on and on with this to the benefit of no-one.

    Edited to add:

    And furthermore, YOU people have the blinders. Not once have any of you even considered that Ray Franz may be on the wrong side here. NOT once. I'm not saying he is, I have no idea, but at least I've considered both sides.

    Edited by - RevMalk on 23 November 2002 10:13:9

  • Englishman
    Englishman
    I should have known I'd be attacked for that Englishman. Anything that makes you feel less than what you are, you must then attack right

    Rev, that was not an attack, really. It was my way buffoonish way of saying that I know you to be an intelligent guy who is acting in the heat of the moment, that's all.

    Englishman.

  • waiting
    waiting

    Got your email, Eman - responded & thank you.

    As JT brought out, and the WTBTS's lawyers are reading all these Bowen said/Franz said threads and laughing.........because some of us are beginning to doubt or dismiss the raping of children as "no more serious" as other religions' rapings. Takes the heat off them, now doesn't it.

    If nothing else, all this umbrage has helped solidify my standing on the subject of these two men. I don't really care that much - they're *just* men. But it has also helped me see who I need to support MORE - SilentLambs because the WTBTS is covering up gross sexual crimes against children - and until they are taken to court again and again like the Catholic Church (who are no worse) - the WTBTS will continue to help abusers find & hurt more children.

    Y'all can discuss Bowen & Franz's failings, or lack of them, for the next "500 years" if you want. But I bet it'd be interesting to see how many jw kids statistically will be raped during that time - even take just next week's molestation figures. Then multiple that by how many religions there are, then take into account all the non-religious rapists....and then realize - neither Bowen nor Franz are THAT important.

    And we haven't even begun on the issue of child & wife beatings. So many JW crimes to speak about other than Bowen's opinions of Franz, and of course, our opinions on their opinions.

    waiting

  • IslandWoman
    IslandWoman

    I thought the phrase to "divide and conquer" was supposed to be applied to the enemy forces not the ones fighting on the same side.

    Mr. Bowen blundered.

    IW

  • waiting
    waiting

    I've just received the lastest issue of Freeminds Journal. On the back page is an article entitled "The Pedophile at Your Door" by Mike Pence.

    "The Department of Justice states that between one and five percent of the population are pedophiles. Congregatons of Jehovah's Witnesses typically number around one hundred members, sometimes more, sometimes less. Even rounding in their favor that could still amount to a pedophile per congregation, declaring their faith on the thresholds of our homes."

    I'll retype it and put it on a new thread. I'm also assuming that all the indepth responses that have been posted on this issue of Franz/Bowen/SilentLambs will contribute thoughtful responses to this article as we're so interested in it? Btw, it's a widely agreed assumption that most pedophiles will never be discovered, nor will most victims of pedophiles who molest ever speak out.

    Thank you. Will try to retype it shortly - I'm at work, obviously not working.

    waiting

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