Reddit thread - ‘Organization Finally Suggesting to Plan for Retirement’

by LongHairGal 104 Replies latest jw friends

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  LongHairGal

  UK PIMO:

  I am sure you are right that this is being said to ‘cover their tracks’ when disgruntled people point a finger in the future. I would hate to think this damaging policy would affect today’s younger generation of JWs when ‘old and grey’.. What a depressing thought.

  I don’t know if anybody ever realized how far reaching and damaging this policy of no career/no decent job has been for Witnesses.

  When I was in the religion there were people who weren’t even pioneers who lived on the edge who worked low paid or part time jobs because it was close to home and they ‘didn’t want to miss meetings’.. These people are now ‘needy’ in addition to the pioneers ‘who didn’t count the cost’ and people who got sent home from bethel.. This is far too many poor and needy people in one place (and a reason why I’m glad I’m not there).

  This is all several generations of consequences of purposely not getting decent employment because people were led to believe the End was soon!
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  St George of England

  could possibly be jws called in to do design work that were in that field or had that training before they were jws

  So true. I just cannot imagine there being a surfeit of such qualified people queuing up to become JWs.

  George
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  blondie

  St George, I agree, but you'd be surprised how many highly educated people join cults. Scientology is one good example. I have lived in a university city for years and have seen people like that become jws. Steven Hassan https://stevenhassan.substack.com/p/errant-belief-6-too-intelligent-join-cult
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  ukpimo

  I know many here and even on reddit have said that the 10 year plan was fake, but I do have to say despite no clear plan the org do seem to be resetting themselves to appear more likeable to outsiders.
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  JohnR1975

  ukpimo8 days ago

  I know many here and even on reddit have said that the 10 year plan was fake, but I do have to say despite no clear plan the org do seem to be resetting themselves to appear more likeable to outsiders.

  Birthdays next?

  They can’t go full U turn saying further education is fine, because even more yang ones would wake up.

  but they are encouraging getting better pay then saving and investing
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  LongHairGal

  JOHNR1975:

  They’re being subtle about it but there seems to be a slow turn in another direction.

  It is not just about fearing more ‘young ones’ waking up, I think it’s about too many still living old Witnesses who are presently negatively affected by the religion’s stand against careers.. So the religion has to be careful lest they rile up too many of these faithful older JWs.. In my opinion, the religion is playing a waiting game. When enough of the baby boomers are gone they will then do a total about-face and be very vocal about how people should ‘save money and prepare for the future’. They will act like they ‘always said this’.

  Meanwhile, those of us who are grateful we planned and never listened all those years ago will know otherwise!
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  LongHairGal

  I don’t know if anybody here is familiar with JT and Lady Cee (ex-JW Critical Thinkers).

  I stumbled upon them by accident. They are a husband and wife team and they are so witty and well informed. They have two new videos just released.

  In one of them JT talks about Failed Teachings and he brings up the topic of JWs who made major life decisions on the say-so of uneducated men. He mentions all the people who walked away from good jobs to pioneer (Glad I never did this).

  Nobody ever got an apology (don’t we know that) and ‘older people who got burned’ were told they ‘served Jehovah with a complete heart’... But he says that ‘complete heart’ won’t pay the rent or the grocery bill in 2025! Ain’t that the truth.

  So, there must be legions of Witnesses reaching out who are suffering today because they made important life decisions decades ago regarding jobs and financial planning on the say-so of uneducated men in a religion who probably haven’t missed a meal.
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  DesirousOfChange

  the org do seem to be resetting themselves to appear more likeable to outsiders

  the org do seem to be resetting themselves to appear more likeable to political leaders (fixed that for you)

  Oh Dear God! It's just that they are in fear of losing their religious tax exempt status!
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  Biahi

  They deserve to lose their tax exempt status.
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  blondie

  DOC, loss of money is the only thing that moves the WTS to take action, not wanting to support their members, certainly financially.