Never mind the issue of human sacrifice supposedly being detested by the God of the Bible. It's why many early Christians did not accept the concept. They saw the death (on earth or in vision?) as a divine tragedy, of the physical vs. spirit worlds.
Who raised Jesus from the dead?
by Blotty 98 Replies latest watchtower bible
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Jeffro
Blotty:
Punk of nice (& Jeffro)
The question of whether there was an itinerant preacher named Yeshua in the first century is entirely mundane and quite separate to the many religious superstitions about Jesus. Even the term ‘Christ myth theory’ is misleading, as the fact that Christ is a myth has much wider acceptance among scholars than the separate unremarkable likelihood that Jesus existed. Those who agree that a man named Jesus existed but was not magical are properly using the term ‘Christ myth’, but those who oppose the ‘theory’ are also happy to use the term ‘Christ myth theory’ because it allows them to smuggle their religious superstitions in with the broader rejection of the notion that the man didn’t exist.
consider this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus#Christ_myth_theory -
Blotty
I question if either of have bothered reading that article let alone looking at scholarly studies on it... but anyway
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Jeffro
🤦♂️
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Blotty
While I do not cite this video in itself as evidence, The reasoning is quite good & the sources are also worth looking over - There are other videos on YouTube similar in nature to this (not to hard to find) with similar reasoning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lctv_pyT62o&ab_channel=TheInfographicsShowextra: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw5kOck8MCw&ab_channel=HistoryValley
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BluesBrother
As has been said, arguments have gone on for 2000 years , and in the end you believe what you want.
For me, one of the few things the WTS have got right is the nature of Jesus and the falsehood of the trinity. There are two different beings, God and Jesus.
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Jeffro
Blotty:
There are other videos on YouTube similar in nature to this (not to hard to find) with similar reasoning.
Indeed there are. The reasoning is poor. And several of the claims therein, such as that the 'gospels' are widely regarded by scholars as historical, are simply false.
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Sea Breeze
Who raised Jesus from the dead?
He did. Just like he predicted he would in John 10: 18 -
"No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again."
Becasue Jesus was a tri-patite being.... like us; he was still fully conscious in spirit after death, just as we will be.Only, His spirit was God.
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Jeffro
Sea Breeze:
Becasue Jesus was a tri-patite being.... like us; he was still fully conscious in spirit after death, just as we will be.
🤦♂️ None of that has any basis in reality whatsoever.
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Sea Breeze
None of that has any basis in reality whatsoever.
@Jeffro - So how do you expalin away tens of thousands of accounts of terminal lucidity and near death experiences to be able to arrive at your conclusion? That's a lot of data to ignore unless you have an apriori commitment to materialism.
These common instances over millenia certainly seem to indicate consciousness to be separate from the body. The below instance is just one of thousands of documented cases.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmc9yktCtms&t=123s