Russia just banned the JWS without much a problem, even took the Borg's owned properties away.
Explosion at Manchester Arena - Fatalities Confirmed
by cofty 342 Replies latest members politics
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Finkelstein
The Muslim religion obviously goes against most human rights charters in most modernized countries because this religion incites violence onto non-Muslims, that's why it should be banned in practice and proliferation..
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hothabanero
Sad. But this kind of murderous terrorism is a feature rather than a bug of the "religion of peace".
This come in the wake of Merkel letting more than a million Muslims into Germany without any meaningful wetting, mostly young able-bodied men from a warzone who in a few years can freely travel around in Europe. You don't have to be a genius to guess what happens next.
UK must surely feel like a man running out of a burning building with his clothes on fire.
My thoughts go out to the people of Manchester...
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hothabanero
Finkelstein: I agree. It is not a religion but a terror organization with varying degree of member activity. It should be ban and the assets confiscated. I don't know how it would work out in practice but it is the only thing worth doing. At the very least Muslims should swear loyalty to the crown.
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Finkelstein
It hasn't been confirmed it was a Muslim extremists act so hold on.
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hothabanero
I am not saying it is Muslims...
...but it is muslims.
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Finkelstein
The Muslim religion has caused division in populations, non-Millions are seen as infidel dogs, to be disrespected.
Like I said previously hold on until all the solid facts come forward.
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jp1692
Finkelstein: The Muslim religion obviously goes against ...
As with most religions, or any belief system, blanket statements such as this are neither accurate nor helpful. Religions are everywhere highly fractured, fragmented things. Some GROUPS latch on to a belief system and use it to justify actions that are roundly condemned by the majority of people outside that group, often including people and groups that are associated with more moderate-or less extreme-versions of that same general belief system.
As humans, we are generally irrational beasts that act as we will often unfettered by any sensible restraint or reason. We then, post hoc, come up with reasonable sounding justifications after the fact to rationalize why we did what we did.
There is no question that certain belief systems are more frequently associated with terrorism, violence and other anti-social acts. But have you personally taken the time to objectively analyze why that is?
Have you yourself acted with restraint and realized the importance of thinking clearly and critically? For example, even if it is true that the majority of terrorist attacks are committed by Muslims (and that is actually a point under contention), do you have the presence of mind to understand that the converse does not follow from that premise: all Muslims are terrorists.
In our past, great atrocities have been committed by any number of groups agianst another. These shameful acts are usually justified by invoking some particular god or other ideology. In a way, it almost doesn't matter what the "excuse" is that is/was used to rationalize horrors committed one human against the other. What we need to do is focus on the underlying forces that cause these horrific events to occur time and time again. Frighteningly, it seems to be more an integral aspect or force of human nature separate from any particular belief system. Indeed, recent research into evolutionary biology and related sociological studies suggest that the "belief systems" evolved/developed to explain our behaviors rather than the other way around: In other words, we act then make up stories to explain our actions, rather than it being our imaginations-sometimes coherent, but usually undependable, often unreliable and frequently delusional-which inspire our actions.
We like to think we are rational beings, but the reality is: we are really just emotional beasts.
All of that being said, I personally would like to see all religion be gone, but because we as humans outgrew it and have discarded the myths and superstitions of our species' youth.
I certainly would not want to live in any place, time or society that prescribes what I or anyone else can or cannot believe. For that would be a return to the cult mentality of the WTBTS, or worse ....
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Coded Logic
I just saw Ariana Grande in Sacramento last year - great show about equality and inclusion. It's just so depressing that these religious zealots still exist in such large numbers to this day!
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MeanMrMustard
There is no question that certain belief systems are more frequently associated with terrorism, violence and other anti-social acts.
Like those damn Amish. Those guys are crazy, always blowing stuff up ...