Explosion at Manchester Arena - Fatalities Confirmed

by cofty 342 Replies latest members politics

  • hothabanero
    hothabanero

    @Rebel: Lol you went full on stupid. fact: Islam is incompatible with democratic life. fact: Islam teaches its followers to murder. Think about it!

  • The Rebel
    The Rebel

    You are correct Cofty I have been ambiguous in my replies. Thank you for bringing that to my attention.

    The Year 2016:-

    In the year 2016 America dropped 26,171 bombs. ( How many Americans are aware of this?)

    In the year 2016, according to the English M.O.D we had more than 1000 airstikes, and more than 2000 bombs/ missiles dropped in Iraq/ Syria, and not one civilian casualty.

    personally I think that statement from the M.OD, is absolute bullshit. How could not one civilian be a casualty?

    Like most American and English citizens I believe in freedom. I also believe bombs sometimes need to be dropped to preserve that freedom. But bombs should never be dropped for oil.

    So Cofty with out being ambiguous, I will spell it out in black and white, I believe Blair was a terroist, and I think most Americans and English citizens are totally unaware of the quantity of bombs that are being dropped each day by their country. And I also believe many of these bombs are hitting innocent citizens daily.

  • LoveUniHateExams
    LoveUniHateExams

    In the year 2016, according to the English M.O.D we had more than 1000 airstikes, and more than 2000 bombs/ missiles dropped in Iraq/ Syria, and not one civilian casualty.

    personally I think that statement from the M.OD, is absolute bullshit. How could not one civilian be a casualty? - good point. I'm pretty sure at least one civilian died as a result of Western bombing (although perhaps the zero fatalities from UK bombing is correct). War is not nice. But the UK (& the rest of the West) does at least try to limit or cut out killing innocent civilians. Now contrast this with Islamic terrorist groups. In the same period - throughout 2016 - how many civilians did these groups kill?

    Like most American and English citizens I believe in freedom - yes, I agree, generally speaking.

    But the point of this thread is discussing the terrorist attack in Manchester. Terrorists and potential terrorists don't have the freedom to terrorise civilians, surely?

    I believe Blair was a terrorist - I'm not sure about that, but he should definitely pay for his mistakes (e.g. Iraq war).

    Y'know, everyone's big on human rights. Well, there's one human right that isn't on the list but urgently needs to be: the freedom from terrorist attacks.

  • The Rebel
    The Rebel

    loveunhateexams "now contrast this with Islamic terroist groups, In the same period - throughout 2016- how many did these killer groups kill?"

    To answer your question for some reason Wikipedia only goes to 2015 but in England the deaths list because of terroist incidents was.

    2015 : 115

    2014: 103

    2013 137

    2012: 51

    2011: 47

    Please note this list does not mention what groups carried out these terroist attacks.

  • LoveUniHateExams
    LoveUniHateExams

    What about the number of civilians killed by terrorist groups in 2016 in the Middle East?

    (Or in 2015 if 2016 isn't available yet.)

  • LoveUniHateExams
    LoveUniHateExams
  • The Rebel
    The Rebel

    Loveandhateexams " but the point of this thread is discussing the terroist attack in Manchester"

    Which is why I presented a list of civilians killed by terroist attacks in the U.K since 2011.( And most of these fatalities were not carried out by Islam extremists)

  • LoveUniHateExams
    LoveUniHateExams

    Loveandhateexams " but the point of this thread is discussing the terroist attack in Manchester"

    Which is why I presented a list of civilians killed by terroist attacks in the U.K since 2011 - then why did you go off-piste and talk about the Iraq War?

  • The Rebel
    The Rebel

    loveunhateexams " then why did you go off-piste and talk about the Iraq war?"

    In " our" communication you were the one that went off topic, when you wrote " what about the amount of civilians killed by terroist groups in 2016 in the Middle East" And thanks for bringing that to my attention.

  • Simon
    Simon

    The Rebel: You're done. Take your terrorist-excusing elsewhere.

    There's a huge difference between accidentally killing civilians (but striving not to) and intentionally targeting civilians. I think the US and it's allies are too quick to drop bombs, but then we are also blamed and targeted by Islamists when we don't get involved in a conflict - almost like their crap is just excuses to justify things. It also doesn't explain their genocidal hatred of Jews and other groups that they oppress, including their own citizens.

    They don't need your help to justify their murderous hatred of anyone who isn't them, their prophet tells them everything they need to know.

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