My dub mom wants to remarry

by unbeliever 70 Replies latest jw friends

  • Jim_TX
    Jim_TX

    Oh... one more thought on this...

    "She called me today on the phone crying telling me because of my dad she will spend the rest of her life alone and if I would talk him into admitting adultary."

    If she truely believed her religions' teachings... she would not have said this - and instead would believe in their oft' preached Armageddon - and that she would THEN be 'scripturally free' afterwards to remarry 'in the new system'.

    Obviously, she has an itch that can't wait till then, eh? *wink*

    From my previous experiences and dealings with the JW's - I KNOW for a FACT that they have loopholes that this gal could use - IF she REALLY wanted to - to get remarried. The same goes with my ex-wifey.

    I know my ex-wifey's sister has been married three times... so far. The first was when she was rebelling - and married a non-JW. She got divorced from him when she 'got religion'. The second was a young brother - and that lasted a few years. She got divorced from him, too. Her third - she has been with - is also a JW.

    I don't seem to recall any conversations during all these marriages/divorces, where she was needing any 'scriptural' reasons to justify her divorces. She just did it!

    Regards,

    Jim TX

  • unbeliever
    unbeliever
    If she truely believed her religions' teachings... she would not have said this - and instead would believe in their oft' preached Armageddon - and that she would THEN be 'scripturally free' afterwards to remarry 'in the new system'.

    Obviously, she has an itch that can't wait till then, eh? *wink*

    You got it Jim. She is very horny much in love with this brother and wants him bad.

    From my previous experiences and dealings with the JW's - I KNOW for a FACT that they have loopholes that this gal could use - IF she REALLY wanted to - to get remarried. The same goes with my ex-wifey.

    She WANTS to get remarried. She won't go against the elders though. Her "BF" is an elder himself and she is an aux. pioneer and VERY strong in the troof. She has chosen that religion over her family time and time again. She has more than proved her loyalty. I don't understand why they won't just take her word that she "feels" she is free to remarry and leave it between her and the false god she worships. They have been divorced for so many years. Why would her elders supposedly close friends of hers not give her the okay? It makes no sense. You know what though she is doing this to herself. If she went ahead and married this brother do you think they would lose their "privledges"?

  • nilfun
    nilfun

    JT RAWKS! LoL. Your comments on this thread are yet another example of why you are on my "must read list" of JWD posters.

    If the mother wants to dance to Bethel's tune, then this is the price she pays.

    yeap.

  • Sassy
    Sassy

    The article that Blondie pointed out has been used to get freedom especially for those who were married to non JWs. You said she has even met his gf in the past. If there is no doubt in her mind that she has her freedom, all she needs to do is follow the steps in the article. They aren't supposed to even be able to deny her. It is supposed to be between her and Jehovah. Although if she is wrong, if there is even the slightest doubt, then it is on her conscience.

    I would just pull out of it. Next time she harrasses you about him, I'd tell her that you are going to tell her precious elders how she is pushing for him to 'commit adultry' and how unchristian it is.. that should shut her up.

    ~~Sassy~

  • mouthy
    mouthy

    I havent read the whole thread ..But I just had a call from 68 Storm. who wife is a JW...She did not have grounds for a divorce- forget the two witness stuff -they dont give a darn about that now- he wrote to Bethel etc -did the whole bit expaling he had never committed adultery & as she had told 68 she loved him- & would be happy to marry him again IF he became a JW. which he couldnt do- even though he loved her... His computer is down.. so he cant reply but wanted unbeliever to know that if a JW wants to marry >>>>>to hell with the two witness stuff.the WT will encourage any two witnesses to get married as long as they stay with in the organization. I just felt untill 68 storm cant get his thread up( he can read but cant answer) I would keep this thread going until he can reply- Smashy

  • mouthy
    mouthy

    By the way his wife IS remarried with out grounds- with WT sanction....TO AN ELDER!!!!!

  • avishai
    avishai
    They haven't done it that way for years. In fact, I know of several situations where the person who wanted to remarry told the elders they were quite sure they were "free" and that was all that was necessary.

    Mulan, not all congs. operate by the same standards, I know of some that are considerably more "archaic & draconian". Are you questioning unbelievers veracity?

  • unbeliever
    unbeliever

    I e-mailed mom and told her to make it very clear to the elders that she FEELS she is free to remarry and that her conscience is clear where dad is concerned. She needs to tell the elders its between her and Jehovah now. I don't think she emphasized that enough when she spoke to them. I also mentioned that dad would not help her out and that I felt it was very wrong of her to drag my brothers and I into this. I wished her luck and a happy life but I would not not try and talk dad into anything. You think I will be invited to the wedding? That's if she gets the elders permission first.

  • Sassy
    Sassy

    You might want to send her the article that Blondie posted unbeliever. Make sure and site where it is so she can look it up on her cd. Really if she points out that article and does what it says, she will get her freedom.. and most of all so will you.... her off your back!

    By the way his wife IS remarried with out grounds- with WT sanction....TO AN ELDER!!!!!

    This is all part of what pisses me off and why I left. Inconsistancies. We have rules and always (where I was) they must be followed...but go somewhere else and people can do what they want without punishment.

    Well I do know current situations where the elders won't let them remarrry without obeying the strict rules. Having admittance to guilt OR two witnesses OR applying that article.. so it must depend on WHO you are.. and who you know..

    I was never a favorite.. and when my recent husband screwed me over I walked away from all of it. Thankfully it is the best decision I ever made.

    ~~Sassy~~

  • AwakenedAndFree
    AwakenedAndFree
    Jim_ TX said:"Scripturally free' afterwards to remarry 'in the new system'.

    .

    LUKE:20:34,35,36 (34):"Jesus said to them:"The children of this system of things marry and are given in marriage, (35):"but those who have been counted worthy of gaining that system of things and the resurrection from the dead neither marry nor are given in marriage.(36):" In fact, neither can they die anymore, for they are God's children by being children of the resurrection." NWT

    According to the Bible, there will be no marriages, re-marriages, and no children born in the new system ! How does the Watchtower explain the above Scripture?

    AAF

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