Is It Possible To Reason With A Typical Jehovah's Witness?

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  • Triple A
    Triple A

    DaCheech

    I cannot reason with my wife. She does not even want me to show her proven issues.

    She says, "keep that away from me". I can't risk a divorce & break-up!

    I heard this on a testemonial and it may be a sexest, but if it works why not go for it?

    The husband a non-JW took two shelfs and told his wife that the one shelf was his and that she was not suppose to touch anything on that shelf since it contained anti-JW material. The other shelf was for her to keep all JW material. Well the female curiousity got the better of her and she would read his stuff when he was not around. That along with some other well planned events woke his wife up to the real truth about the Society.

    I also read where the JW is really more in tune to reading than listening. So if you can get them to read the material it is better than talking to them.

  • Nadsam
    Nadsam

    I remember as a kid being told that if you read any "evil slave" stuff you would be committing an unforgivable sin. So when I one day saw "30yrs a WT Slave" in the local library I ran like hell. Stupid hey! If I had read it then it may have saved me from wasting my own 30yrs as a WT slave !

  • Nathan Natas
    Nathan Natas

    Q.: Is It Possible To Reason With A Typical Jehovah's Witness?

    A.: Yes, if you let him win.

    This is especially advisable if he is a Wookie.

  • garybuss
    garybuss

    Reasoning with a Witness is like trying to reason with a drunk.

  • DaCheech
    DaCheech

    Tripple A: thanks, but I print out stuff from internet & old WT quoted

    even if it's from the WT library 2003.

    But, after reading & trying to let her read it - I have to destroy it

    for the love that someone does not inadvertantly find it.

    Once I was listening to a MP3 CD with testimonials & other EX-jw's that turned

    into born agains, and she yelled until I stopped the CD. I told her I had no other time

    to listen to this except in my Auto, but to no avail!

  • shamus
    shamus

    People who are 'blinded' or want to believe in what they hear will never change. They want it to be truth... so they accept it, plug they're ears, shut they're eyes tight, and scream LA LA LA.... so they can't hear the real truth.

    Jehovahs Witnesses sure can dish out crap about other religions! When it comes to other religions or other people doing the same back to them, they call it persecution.

    (yup, I was one of them too.)

    So to those who close they're ears, shut they're eyes, and scream, please feel free to do so. Logic and time is the ultimate judge. Unfortunately, many find out when it's too late and they're whole lives are ruined by a dream that is not at all what reality is.

    Can you believe that they actually accept the 'library card' excuse? Or the coverup of child molesters... yet they still believe! Why?

    Because where else will they go when they're lies are brough out in the open for them to see? Where will they go? They're entire existence... families... everything is there! Outside are 'the dogs' or whatever the hell we are called... apostate... pigs... assholes... whatever.

    Most cope by drinking, or just forgetting what they heard. Sure, other religions are babylon the great... the great whore... but oh no.. not the governing body of jehovbers.... no no no.. infallible men, yes, but no, no no... never never never wrong.

    The thing that witnesses fail to realize that time is the ultimate judge. Is what they are saying real? Now you have to be pretty dammed delusional to realize that the botchtower has produced outright garbage about they're 'loving' organization.

    Sorry... I'm rambling.

    What I'm trying to say is you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.

  • seattleniceguy
    seattleniceguy

    LOL @ Nathan!

  • davidsf
    davidsf

    No. You have to wait until some event happens for them to open their minds. Then they will reason. Until that special event happens, it's "my religion right or wrong."

    David

  • LoverOfTruth
    LoverOfTruth

    You generally cannot reason with them but you can almost always plant seeds of doubt.

  • onacruse
    onacruse

    "Reason with?" Yes.

    "Change?" That's up to them.

    Sometimes I wonder if we're subconsciously trying to "count the converts" in our efforts? imho, if we get a JW, "typical" or otherwise, and even an ex-JW, to stop for a bit and think about their belief-system, then we've done as much as we could.

    Buildings are put up brick-by-brick, and come down the same way.

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