A womans tears (page 8)

Maverick

Xena I wonder if LT did not BELIEVE these women when they said they have no problem with a mans crying? I would never cast aspersions on anyones veracity but I don't plan on ever putting those women to the test by sobbing in front of them. Over time, certain ones like you and SP and Robdar are known as very direct and no BS ladies, (and I am taking nothing away from all the other great people who commented here on this topic). But you gals hold nothing back, men understand this because this is how we are with each other. As I said , I personaly have a problem with men crying, but its a womans tears that scare the Hell out of me. Poke me in the eye with a stick! Anything but a womans tears! Mav

StinkyPantz

I wonder if LT did not BELIEVE these women when they said they have no problem with a mans crying?

Mav, I didn't get that impression; but since LT is busy at work and can't comment , I'll give my take on why he's addressing the detractors:

1) I think he's surprised that Robyn and I are being so.. archaic ? He knows I cry a lot, so you might even say I was being hypocritical. I'd address that if I saw my friend being that way.

2) On db's it's pretty common to spend more time addressing the people you DISagree with.. I can't say why, but it seems to be more common.

Maverick

Thanks for the imput SP. I don't think your feelings are archaic, my gut tells me not to cry in front of women. It's not a display of strength. A tear of compassion or tenderness will not diminish a man, but a lack of emotional control in a relationship will. Mav

SheilaM

However, I will probably break up with him. After all, there is room for only one girl in the relationship--me

Took me years to let Thunder know that tears were an emotion he could show. My son will cry if he is hurt and angry...or if he is happy I don't look at him as a sissy or a manipulator, I look at him as a Man raised correctly without the programming of having to "act" this way or "act" that way.

TO ME that is wrong when a man feels strongly but only has certain tools in his emotional toolbox to use. How sad is that and to think people are still letting men think that they could be dumped for just being human.

Why would anyone be in a relationship with a person that would manipulate you in the first place? I guess I have never seen anyone but my middle sister cry to "manipulate" but to me her crying was not as bad as her other types of manilpulation.

StinkyPantz

Sheila-

How sad is that and to think people are still letting men think that they could be dumped for just being human

I agree with you. Just like some men were raised to believe that men shouldn't cry, some women (like me) were raised the SAME way. I hope that I do not perpetuate this with my children. I hope my comments didn't seem like I advocate it either. I was just expressing how I felt when I see a man cry.

SheilaM

SP: I can remember thinking when I was little about my Dad not crying. To me I saw a lot of his anger come out when he was so hurt and seemed to think he couldn't cry....BELIEVE ME tears would have been much more appreciated.

FlyingHighNow

It is a fact that from an early age girls learn how to manipulate men through the use of tears.

I don't agree with this one at all. I never learned that and I know a lot of women who never learned it. As a matter of fact, I'd say the woman who truly uses tears to manipulate is the extreme exception and not the rule.

Some feel the dub way of viewing women still permeates this board. Sometimes I think so, too.

Men crying? I am moved very deeply by a man's tears. Most men will cry only when they absolutely cannot stop the tears. They have been trained to feel crying is a bad thing.

Flyin'

LittleToe

Just back from a meeting at work.
Boy, this thread took an interesting twist...

There's no irony, bisbelief, or surprise in my comments. I was just addressing those attitudes that I feel are detrimental to the human race.

I'm pleased to hear that some women are understanding enough, in this day and age, to let their men show emotion.

I can only remember seeing my father cry once, and that was a few minutes after hearing of the suicide of his best friend.
One of the two occasions of my public crying, I mentioned above, was on hearing of the death of a close friend of mine.

Let the judging continue...

StinkyPantz

sigh..

FlyingHighNow

I'm pleased to hear that some women are understanding enough, in this day and age, to let their men show emotion. Little Toe

Little Toe, I will repeat:

Men crying? I am moved very deeply by a man's tears. Most men will cry only when they absolutely cannot stop the tears. They have been trained to feel crying is a bad thing. FlyingHighNow

Many people, men and women alike are very uncomfortable with others expressing emotion. This is a shame because it makes for a lot of uptight, unhappy people who go around in denial of the fact that we, as human beings, are emotional creatures.

Flyin'

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