My point is....we are hearing a short post based on biased twenty year old second hand information. In it was admitted "nothing happened". Thus a big to do about nothing.
Biased? Okay, prove it. What empirical data do you have that proves beyond a reasonable doubt the account is biased?
Secondly, define please the parameters of "nothing happened"? Are you talking about child rape? Are you referring to fondling a child? Is penetration of a child your only accepted definition?
Lastly, what exactly did the boy do about this experience? You say "a big to do about nothing", and yet I am at a loss to see what "big to do" this boy made about what his mother forced on him. Perhaps I have missed something in account. Please enlighten me.
While most here were quick to demonize the mother and use ridiculous adjectives I was offering a counterpoint to consider.
Forgive me, but if I understand the background you've presented online you are not a parent. While that in no way eliminates you from a discussion regarding the appropriate behavior a parent should show a child, it does give insight. While I understand your counterpoint, I've noticed that you seem to be quick to dismiss the thoughts and feelings of someone who has expressed shame and, at the very least, great discomfort in his mother behavior. I find this curious as if the boy were irrelevent to the discussion. Again, the boy did not ask to sleep with his mother, nor did he want her to rub up against him. Indeed, he expressed the opposite feelings and yet you quickly dismiss a legitimate response to what, in his mind, was inappropriate behavior.
I'm curious, if the genders were reversed, and a father asked his 15 year old daughter to sleep with him, and the daughter later reported he had an erection and rubbed up against her, would also dismiss her feelings of shame and uncomfortableness?
Why was the "boy" feeling so guilty? As I mentioned was it HE who was having inappropriate thoughts about his mother?
Please re-read the original post. Please show me where in the account the boy expressed any inappropriate thoughts. If you will remember I quoted the post for you once, perhaps you did not read it. The account said the boy felt "uneasy". How is feeling uneasy, inappropriate?
Did he misconstrue parental love for sexual stimulation? What are the possibilities of a 15 year old boy misunderstanding sexual / non sexual advances.
Red herring. There is no evidence he did. This is wild speculation on your part. Again, it is more important, and with more long-term benefit to all involved, to focus on the boy's feelings. That the boy felt uncomfortable, and that a personal boundary was crossed is without question. I say that because each of us has the right to say what happens to our bodies. The mother crossed this boundary by insisting her son sleep with her even though he did not want to. She reinforced this by rubbing her body against his. He did not want this to happen. Surely you can agree that an individual has the right to say who will, or will not, use their body? In this case, the boy felt (operative word) violated. I hesitate to use the word mild, but this instance of violation was not as severe as it could have been, or in ways that other parents have used their children.
This is my point. I couldn't care less one way or the other...but everyone jumping on the PC bandwagon made me want to at least point out other possibilities.
At the risk of "jumping on the PC bandwagon", may I point out that my interest in this thread revolves solely around the boy, and his feelings of being violated. That you do not is apparent, but I choose to show care and concern toward the little person rather than the those that should protect, but instead do not. And yes, I'm hopelessly naive, and a bleeding heart liberal and most likely a bear of very little brain.
Sorry for the interuption....let the harranguing of the woman continue.
Please define "harranguing". Do you object to applying proper labels to specific behavior?
Chris
