In my view simple: you either follow WT rules and accept the consequences or you don't and accept the consequences. WT is not interested in your happiness. WT (and religious organisations) should not interfere with couples / marriages. I understand that he does not love his wife anymore and is in love with the other woman. He should convince himself of what he really wants. Do not turn this new girl into a JW as that is the wrong basis for a relation. If she is his new future, focus on building a foundation with that girl, separate from religion. If she develops a natural desire for religion, that is fine but it should never be a condition to start a relationship.
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Adultery, Divorce, Remarry
by azl0058 inmy brother (who is a witness) has been married for 8 years.
he and his wife (also a witness) got married young, but he never really tried in the marriage, but she also lost his trust early on.
he says that it was his fault though because he pushed her away.. anyways, he met this new girl (not a witness) and told his wife that he wanted to separate.
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Jesus speaks in third person
by menrov ini stumbled on john 17:1,2 which reads in net version:.
17 when jesus had finished saying these things, he looked upward to heaven and said, “father, the time has come.
glorify your son, so that your son may glorify you— 2 just as you have given him authority over all humanity, so that he may give eternal life to everyone you have given him.. if jesus had a close relation with his father, would you not expect to read something like this:.
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menrov
I stumbled on John 17:1,2 which reads in NET version:
17 When Jesus had finished saying these things, he looked upward to heaven and said, “Father, the time has come. Glorify your Son, so that your Son may glorify you— 2 just as you have given him authority over all humanity, so that he may give eternal life to everyone you have given him.
If Jesus had a close relation with his father, would you not expect to read something like this:
17 When Jesus had finished saying these things, he looked upward to heaven and said, “Father, the time has come. Glorify me
your Son, so thatyour SonI may glorify you— 2 just as you have givenhimme authority over all humanity, so thatheI may give eternal life to everyone you have givenhimme.Any views?
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Loyalty to God ( or the Society ) Before The Familiar
by BluesBrother inthis week's midweek meeting has an item on this theme.
as usual there is a video to show:-.
https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/vodbibleprinciples/pub-jwbai_201611_1_video.
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menrov
Fortunately I hear of more and more JW's who go against this "shunning". May be not always in openness but at least they try to show their care for the disfellowshipped person.
But the policy is wrong and damaging. Very strange that governments are still reluctant to act against these harsh policies, often practices by cults. I cannot believe a judge would approve the policy if they would see these videos. All these parents are worse than unbelievers:
Any parent who, as a result of loyalty to men, does not (consider to) provide for a relative or family member (any form, can be money, emotional etc) who is in (serious) need, is not worth to be a parent. A parent does not have to agree with the lifestyle or views of the other family member but has a moral obligation to (consider to) provide support when the other member is in need of it.
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Funeral talk
by dothemath ini was recently present at a witness funeral (by zoom) and the brother did do a nice talk about this sister who passed away.
her and her husband had pioneered for many years, but she succumbed to cancer.. in his closing remarks, of course he talked about the resurrection, and remarked how the husband (still alive) would soon be back together with his wife.. certainly fine thoughts, but imagine if this guy ended up getting remarried?
isn’t that putting a lot of pressure on someone, when it isn’t even mentioned in the bible at all?.
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menrov
If resurrection is true, it will never be with your former partner. Just imagine: widow(er) remarries, both die, and will meet former partner.....
The whole "you will be with your loved one(s)" is a marketing effort. Not based on the scriptures at all but meeting a sentiment in humans.
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Announcement December 3, 2020 FOR CONGREGATIONS
by pixel inannouncement.
december 3, 2020. for congregations.
1. covid-19 vaccine information: several covid-19 vaccines may soon be approved and.
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menrov
Well, the vaccine may not contain blood but they (like for most vaccines) make use of:
According to Science magazine, the journal of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, at least five of the potential COVID-19 vaccines being developed use cell lines from one of two aborted babies
So, I guess all Christians and JW's might reconsider using vaccines in general.
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RIP Diego Armando Maradona (1960-2020)
by LoveUniHateExams indiego maradona apparently died yesterday, 11-25-2020, from a heart attack aged 60.. on the football pitch he was a genius, a footballer of outrageous talent.
btw i'm english, and like many of my compatriots, i remember how disgraceful his cheating was in the quarter finals of the 1986 world cup against england.
he clearly deliberately punched the football into the net, and that goal should not have been allowed.
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menrov
I agree he was a very talented or gifted player. I tend to think others were better in the sense they were also more like a captain.
Nevertheless, we all know about the first goal. Personally I also have my doubts if the second goal was made by Maradona. If you look very carefully, at 2:28 mark, it seems the defender is actually moving the ball in his own goal. Still an amazing solo, but the sliding the defender makes, move the ball in his own goal. I do not think Maradona was able to kick the ball. But I can be wrong, not good to see. Would be interesting to do it frame by frame with better quality.Pity he had to end this way. The danger of fame and wealth when you are coming from the poor neighbourhoods. I enjoyed his games.
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Prime Minister of Australia announces intention to revoke Jehovah’s Witnesses charity status
by jwleaks intoday, marking the second anniversary of the australian national apology to victims and survivors of institutional child sexual abuse, the prime minister of australia has announce in federal parliament the intention to place sanctions against the jehovah’s witnesses in relation to child sexual abuse.. quote from prime minister:.
the royal commission [into institutional response to child sexual abuse], the [national] apology [to victims and survivors of institutional child sexual abuse] and these yearly reports are about accountability: bringing the truth into the light ... we still have, reprehensibly, four institutions that have been named publicly and that have blatantly refused to join the redress scheme.
they are jehovah's witnesses ... it's not acceptable.
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you reap what you sow
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New terminology? “Donations in Support of Kingdom Interests Worldwide”
by Ultimate Reality inpetra/atlantis recently posted and supplied a document on donations.
what stood out to me, besides the usual nonsense, was the phrase, “donations in support of kingdom interests worldwide.”.
this appears to be a change in terminology from donations in support of the “worldwide work of jehovah’s witnesses.”.
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menrov
I wonder how this will work. It says I can donate for a local congregation but the money would go to the WT organisation, not directy to the local congregation.
Now, for sake of (illogical) argument :-), I want to give 10k to local congregation. The local congregation is not allowed to have more in their bank account than needed for simple maintenance. So, this 10k will never be given to the local congregation I assume.
Actually, I wonder if fiscally it is allowed that the WT would keep the money that actually was provided by me to the local congregation....
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Sin came into the world - not true?
by menrov inmatt 5:27 “you have heard that it was said, ‘do not commit adultery.’ 28 but i say to you that whoever looks at a woman to desire her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.. this means that even before someone commits an act that is considered a sin or wrong but does think about it, that person actually already committed that sin or trespassing.. now read this:.
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5:12 so then, just as sin entered the world through one man and death through sin, and so death spread to all people because all sinned— 13 for before the law was given, sin was in the world, but there is no accounting for sin when there is no law.. this means that there was already sin in the world before adam and eve actually ate the fruit.
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menrov
Matt 5:27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Do not commit adultery.’ 28 But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to desire her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
This means that even before someone commits an act that is considered a sin or wrong but does think about it, that person actually already committed that sin or trespassing.
Now read this:
Rom. 5:12 So then, just as sin entered the world through one man and death through sin, and so death spread to all people because all sinned— 13 for before the law was given, sin was in the world, but there is no accounting for sin when there is no law.
This means that there was already sin in the world before Adam and Eve actually ate the fruit. Because:
Gen. 3:6 When the woman saw that the tree produced fruit that was good for food, was attractive to the eye, and was desirable for making one wise, she took some of its fruit and ate it. She also gave some of it to her husband who was with her, and he ate it. 7 Then the eyes of both of them opened, and they knew they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.
So, Eve had a desire to eat which was not allowed. So, she already committed the sin even before she ate. Adam followed to eat. As such, we can only conclude that Adam and Eve were created with sin. As they had no human parents, they could not blame the genes or DNA from their parents. In other words, based on the scriptures about the acts of Adam and Eve, the only conclusion is that Adam nor Eve were without sin before they actually committed the sin or trespassing.
As a side point, it seems the fruit was under a spell. Gen. 3:7 Then the eyes of both of them opened, and they knew they were naked; ...This means that the bite(s) from the fruit instantly generated a change in their heads. Like magic. You might wonder, what chance did either Eve or Adam have to withstand the look of the fruit.
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KH flying Chilean Flags??
by Vanderhoven7 ini saw a headline saying chile is demanding religious organizations fly the nations flag.. is this accurate?
is the society complying?.
https://jwsurvey.org/tag/jehovahs-witnesses.
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menrov
"...as long as worship or ceremonies are not involved"..... then it is ok and we raise the national flag though the flag represents nationalism, patriotism and that you support that. BUT do not celebrate a birthday or in anyway participate, because well....you might lose God as your friend.