Posts by hamsterbait

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Three Comments & An Ass-Chewing

by piztjw in

so, normally if i go to a meeting i sit and don't say a word through the entire ordeal.

however today i just could not keep my big mouth shut.. it was funny that i even got called on....three times none-the-less.

of course 99% of the sheeple just sat with blank looks on their mugs this morning.

hamsterbait

Are you sure they werent "DYKES" indicating a change of heart and letting women become elders?

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my facebook was "lit up" today with all the out cries about the possibility of the organization's website being banned in russia.. as many of you recall this past august a court in russia banned the website and sought to make accessing the website in russia illegal.

well tomorrow the appeal by the org will be heard in court.

if the appeal is denied, jw.org will no longer be available in that part of the world, causing endless lamentations and cries of "persecution", only to bolster the idea that they are truly hated by the world because they are true christians.

hamsterbait

The governments are all eager to control the internet, and our freedoms of thought and expression.

If we do nothing when something we dislike is banned, eventually when the governments come after US there will be nobody left to support us.

Let people make up their own minds.

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Would the Jehovah's Witnesses be willing to celebrate their spiritual birthday every year?

by I_love_Jeff in

one of their spiritual sisters said that since jesus attended weddings, that makes it okay to celebrate annual wedding anniversaries.

using this logic, since jesus approved of and attended his own baptism, that should, therefore, make it okay for jehovah's witnesses to celebrate their spiritual birthdays on that same day every year.

how exciting to have this new adjustment to our understanding of birthdays!

hamsterbait

Some people started doing this in the 80s - the borg quickly clamped down on it.

The only thing witlesses are allowed to celebrate is their wedding anniversary (ie their first F***)

Who says jehoobie isnt a fertility god?

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Holy Spirit in new NWT

by hamsterbait in

in johns gospel jesus refers to the "helper" "the spirit of truth" saying "when he arrives he will etc".

the wt justified their use of he in this instance, because in greek the word is masculine gender.. (aside from the ludricrousness of this argument - english does have neuter pronouns).

have they changed he to it inthese passages?.

hamsterbait

Can anybody paste up the relevant verses from this Wonderful NOO provision from the Gibbering Buddies?

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This truly pisses me off

by Terry in

http://www.jw.org/en/news/by-region/asia/kyrgyzstan/court-ruling-for-conscientious-objectors/.

december 30, 2013 | kyrgyzstan.

kyrgyzstan court rules in favor of conscientious objectors bishkek, kyrgyzstanthe constitutional chamber of the supreme court of kyrgyzstan unanimously declared on november 19, 2013, that the countrys current law on alternative service is unconstitutional and violates the right of freedom of religion.

hamsterbait

Remember when they just tossed away the misery of young witlesses who went to prrison over this?

They said it so weasel: "How should a witness who went to prison conscienciously feel now that Brothers can accept alternative service WITHOUT CONSEQUENCES" - why dont these duplicitous swine admit that young men were threatened with DF if they took alternative service?

Why dont they admit that in Poland young brothers left school and got jobs in the coal mines, since then they would not be called for service, but brothers called to the military were not allowed to accept coal mining as alternative service and were coerced into going to jail.

Why dont they admit that for some young men prison was a hell of rape. That some were so starved of love they ended up DF IN PRISON and shunned by the other Dub prisoners for falling in love with another inmate?

I see a pattern:

Russell came along and trashed Barbour's teachings.

Rutherford came along and trashed Russell's teachings.

Knorr and co came along and trashed Rutherford.

The current leaders are trashing Knorr and co.

When they croak their last their teachings will be trashed too.

What is the point of learning or believing any of the rubbish they have printed for 140 years? Why not do your own trashing now?

I can see why Terry is MAD - I just read his book.

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Holy Spirit in new NWT

by hamsterbait in

in johns gospel jesus refers to the "helper" "the spirit of truth" saying "when he arrives he will etc".

the wt justified their use of he in this instance, because in greek the word is masculine gender.. (aside from the ludricrousness of this argument - english does have neuter pronouns).

have they changed he to it inthese passages?.

hamsterbait

In Johns Gospel Jesus refers to the "Helper" "the Spirit of Truth" saying "when HE arrives He will etc"

The WT justified their use of HE in this instance, because in greek the word is masculine gender.

(Aside from the ludricrousness of this argument - english does have neuter pronouns)

Have they changed HE to IT inthese passages?

I say their argument is ludicrous because a good translation uses the TARGET language correctly.

For instance in french "chaise" (chair) is feminine, but you would not translate into english "SHE is a comfortable chair".

In German "Madchen" (little girl) is neuter, but the english would not be "IT is a pretty girl".

In english we refer to boats and ships as "she", but if you translated a french novel about the sea into english you would not have the captain saying "HEs a good boat" (french "bateau is masculine") it is just not a good translation.

If greek has a neuter gender, why would Jesus use a masculine instead of neuter for an impersonal force?

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Reading Captives of a Concept: Interesting what i read in CH3

by DS211 in

surely jesus would have noticed what they had been teaching about his second coming, or invisible presence as they prefer to call it.

matthew 24:3 37 .

today they teach that he returned to begin his second coming in 1914. but the proclaimers book explains that this was not what they were teaching before, during and for many years after jesus' inspection in 1918-1919. on pages 46 and 47 it explains that in 1876... .

hamsterbait

According to current "noolite," Jesus "comes" up to six different times depending on what context the witchtower is talking about.

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An incident in Michigan

by Mandette in

an article on a jw who died from lack of blood.

family then sued..

hamsterbait

Chase :

The HUSBAND upheld his wife's decision. What non-witless would have done that in a life or death situation?

Suing just shows that they want money money money. Presumably to buy off their guilty conscience....

Those Doctors will never again help a jdub.

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Circuit Oversneer Says. . .

by piztjw in

"do you realize how much of a privelge it is to enjoy the visit of the circuit overseer?

they are appointed by the governing body who in turn are apointed by jesus and holy spirit.

so you have a great privilege when we visit your congregation, because it is the same thing as having jesus visit you.

hamsterbait

One CO I remember said if you wanted to approach him with a problem - dot be shy, then quoted the scripture "we are not gods merely men like yourselves".

I could barf, but that would be a waste of good puke.

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New Study Exposes Acupuncture As Pseudoscience

by alecholmesthedetective in

besides it being pseudoscience, what interests me about this is that even though it's something to do with the "qi" energy flowing in our bodies, that wasn't a problem for some members of my family or a special pioneer i knew.. new study exposes acupuncture as pseudoscience.

hamsterbait

Seaparation _

Remember too that when anaesthetics were first mooted they were viewed as placebos and a con. Rejcted by the establishment along with antiseptic concepts, which were laughed down.

Blood transfusions too were mocked. now if you dont want one you are a fool. Once you were bled for disease, if you didnt want it you were a fool. If you refused tartar emetics you were a fool.

Medicine is one of the most conservative and unadventurous of the sciences. Every truly revolutionary step forward has been trashed by the establishment.

Only by going to China and getting a full degree in medicine there would you have any real ability to evaluate a treatment that is used in MAINSTREAM medicine.

Oh and I JUST LOOKED AT THE PAGE AGAIN AND SAW:

"Hosptial food is not just bad it is also BAD FOR YOU" can we have some research on this much more vital issue than hot flushes and acupucture? Of course using double blind and placebo groups.