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  Does god punish children for their parents sins?

  by moomanchu in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  ezekiel 18: 1-4 , “the word of the lord came to me: ‘what do you people mean by quoting this proverb about the land of israel: “the parents eat sour grapes, and the children’s teeth are set on edge”?

  as surely as i live, declares the sovereign lord, you will no longer quote this proverb in israel.

  for everyone belongs to me, the parent as well as the child—both alike belong to me.

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  blondie

  I wondered about that, researched using WT publications, and was still confused. Asked an elder privately and he said that Exodus in context means the whole nation of Israel, while Ezekiel means individual responsibility. (what?!) And the Question from Readers ends with this statement: "As Creator and Life-Giver, Jehovah has every right to determine what punishment is just and appropriate. The above instances show that children or descendants may feel the ill effects of their ancestors’ sin. However, Jehovah “hears the outcry of the afflicted ones,” and individuals who earnestly turn to him may receive his favor and even some measure of relief.​" (Now isn't that a dance around) WT 3/15/29 p. 28-29,) (reporting not supporting) If you want you can look us this article made clickable on Watchtower Online Library.https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2010210
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  The Watchtower—Study Edition  |  January 2025 Husbands, Honor Your Wife

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  14 a husband who physically or verbally abuses his wife needs to take additional steps to repair his relationship with jehovah and with his wife.

  what are these steps?

  first, he recognizes that he has a serious problem.

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  blondie

  Yes, paragraph 14 actually says that. If you don't mind, you can click on the link that takes you to the article on the Watchtower Online Library. https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/watchtower-study-january-2025/Husbands-Honor-Your-Wife/ the go down to paragraph 14 and see for yourself.
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  Is it just me, or is Watchtower lowering its standards?

  by ukpimo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the past, we used to hear talks on:.

  avoiding sexual immorality and porn, as well as masturbation and other sexual practices.

  why evolution cannot possibly be true.

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  blondie

  Let me add, what the WTS says in writing about training younger male jws, is much different from how elders actually teach. 1) What is said in the elder's manual is more important then what that new elder thinks the bible says, even if the WT directive does not use any pertinent scriptural support. 2) (if they still do this) Usually the CO looks over the publisher record cards, to assess the "spiritual" health of the congregation, missed one month reporting time, not reporting for 6 months, df'd and see if the elders have made a personal call on them (elders do a semblance of this making what my husband calls drive-by calls, drive by and assess if any one is home or catch them doing something "bad" such as holiday decorations or sneaking a smoke). Yes, the WTS uses a scripture that says that the shepherd must pay attention to the health of the sheep. 3) pick apart the length of a brother's hair, a sister's tight dresses, etc. The elders train new elders to do these things and many others, depending on the congregation. Yes, you must obey the elders or be labeled, a "problem" elder.
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  Maddison, WI Shool Shooting - 3 Dead

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  like the one in tennessee, this one in maddison, wi, was done be a female.

  the police chief points out that: .

  “yes, i don’t know whether [the shooter] was transgender or not, and quite frankly, i don’t think that’s even important.

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  blondie

  I would wait until law enforcement and the local media put forth a more realistic reason/info. Guessing it and posting it here is of no good use to anyone. I doubt that any of your guesses are correct. I live closer to this than I care to reveal here. As far I have seen in the media in the past, we don't have to worry about a gender confused teen turned mass murderer. moomanchu, your guesses are maybe 1 percent likely to be the facts. Most mass murderers are not gender confused teens. I would hate to think this group is like made up jws that gossip about people in the congregation and the reasons they are df'd. Blondie (actually I am embarrassed that this has been said on here)
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  Merry Christmas Everyone

  by jhine in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it's that time of year again .

  in the words of the bard ( noddy holder ) " it's christmaaas " .

  merry christmas everybody .

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  blondie

  Merry Christmas, finishing decorating the tree and upstairs decor. Getting ready to bake cookies for 10 of our neighbors that helped us this year with things on our house and inside, that we can no longer reach without a ladder. We take them over other times, but this is a special time. Have a good safe time. Blondie
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  Convention attendance

  by joe134cd in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just heard from a pimi cousin who recently attended a convention, and remarked about the low attendance.

  peak was about 500. i remember that circuit, in years past, had attendances of 1000+.

  it's been over a decade now since i last attended a jw convention.

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  blondie

  I have thought about circuit overseers being eliminated. At one point, local elders were trained to be substitute circuit overseers, because the CO schedule was so packed with 1) visiting each congregation 2x a year 2) convention overseeing 3) having their own time off 4) conducting the pioneer school... Organized to do Jehovah's Will (elders manual in the past) Chapter 20, p. 111

  "Those who are appointed as circuit overseers by the Governing Body receive training and gain experience

  first by serving as substitute circuit overseers. Such men love the ministry and love their brothers. They are zealous pioneers, diligent students of the Bible, and effective speakers and teachers. They are outstanding in manifesting the fruitage of the spirit, and they demonstrate balance, reasonableness, and discernment. If a brother is married, his pioneer wife is exemplary in her conduct and dealings with others. She is an effective preacher. She also understands her role as a submissive Christian wife, not speaking for her husband or dominating conversations. Circuit overseers and their wives have a rigorous schedule, so those reaching out for this service must be in good health. Pioneers do not apply for the circuit work. Rather, they make their desire to be in the circuit work known to their circuit overseer, who will provide them with suggestions."
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  Prepare to get Pelted by Symbolic Hailstones

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://youtu.be/idhmflud3p4?si=9xc4svrhxslduwvz.

  so david schafer a member of the teaching commitee and a helper to the governing body has come out yesterday with a new video that goes through the king of the north, the hailstones message and other things in the wake of the possibility of a ww3 and especially now that tensions are escalating with russia so he is making quite a few end time arguments and i will be expanding on those one by one but today let's see what he has about the hailstones message of the end(video) so this is the paragraph in question, paragraph 14 from article 20 of the watchtower 2020 study edition: "sometime after the start of the great tribulation, “the kings of the entire inhabited earth” will form a coalition of nations.

  (rev.

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  blondie

  From my childhood the orange Paradise book upper left hand, bike, dog and child (now that made sleeping hard at hight)

  
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  I've done it: Christmas Lights Outside

  by StephaneLaliberte in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  lets see if that causes a problem.

  i've been inactive for a very long time now (like 10+ years), so, i don't expect to hear anything from it, but my parents are worried i'll get df.

  lets see what happens.

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  blondie

  After the first substantial snowfall, we put out our inflatable snowpeople and put up snowflakes on the porch, and have white lights on the oak tree and on the porch banister all year long. It is winter folks, get a life jws!
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  Who Directs the Activitie$ and Doctrines of the Hovering Body?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah’s witnesses boast that theirs is a “spirit-directed organization”.. see w88 3/1 pp.

  10-17 (my life in jehovah’s spirit-directed organization).

  they believe that their deceased founder, charles taze russell (who faced legal action by his wife for inappropriate behavior in his maids bedroom), is directing the modern-day work of jehovah’s witnesses.. after the founder, c t russell died, it was stated that he was still directing the work from heaven.. "though pastor russell has passed beyond the veil, he is still managing every feature of the harvest work.

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  blondie

  I thought all of the 144,000 would be "kings" but only in heaven, never on earth...and there would be female "anointed" too that go to heaven to be "kings." "Evidently, some early Christians lost sight of that fact and began seeking undue prominence among their brothers in the congregation. As a result, Paul was moved to ask: “You men already have your fill, do you? You are rich already, are you? You have begun ruling as kings without us, have you? And I wish indeed that you had begun ruling as kings, that we also might rule with you as kings.” 1 Cor. 4:8 (just reporting not supporting" the GB will only be kings in heaven if the are "faithful" to death per the WTS
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  As a JW, did YOU ever preach this??????

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  km 2/91 p. 2 par.

  6 - unique to jehovah’s people is the scriptural teaching of two destinies for those approved by jehovah—a heavenly one and an earthly one.

  the principal heading under which we find references about those who have received “the heavenly calling” is “congregation of god.”.

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  blondie

  (Reporting not Supporting) When the WTS speaks of the “congregation” is it speaking of the Israelite nation, the first century congregation of only anointed Christian members, of the WTS group of “anointed” JWs or Christians in every group?

  Notice how the WTS defines “Congregation of God.”

  *** WTS Index 1930-85 Congregation of God ***

  CONGREGATION OF GOD
  (Also called 144,000; Anointed; Body of Christ; Bride of Christ; Chosen Ones; Elect; Holy Nation; Israel of God; Kingdom Class; Little Flock; New Creation; New Nation; Royal House; Royal Priesthood; Sanctuary Class; Sons of Levi; Spirit Begotten; Spiritual Israel; Spiritual Sons)

  During the time of Russell, the Congregation of God was considered made up of Jesus Christ and the Anointed. I will try to find that quote.

  ** Paradise Everlasting book (1989) chap. 14 pp. 125-126 Who Go to Heaven, and Why? ***

  THE CONGREGATION OF GOD
  17 The Bible tells us that Christ is the head of God’s congregation, and that its members are subject to Jesus. (Ephesians 5:23, 24) So the word “church,” or “congregation of God,” does not refer to some building. Rather, it refers to a group of Christians. (1 Corinthians 15:9) Today we may speak of the congregation of Christians with whom we associate. In the same way, we read in the Bible about “the congregation of the Laodiceans,” and, in the apostle Paul’s letter to Philemon, about “the congregation that [was in his] house.”—Colossians 4:16; Philemon 2.

  18 However, when the Bible speaks of “the congregation of the living God,” it is referring to a particular group of Christ’s followers. (1 Timothy 3:15) They are also called “the congregation of the firstborn who have been enrolled in the heavens.” (Hebrews 12:23) So this “congregation of God” is made up of all Christians on earth who have the hope of heavenly life. In all, only 144,000 persons finally make up the “congregation of God.” Today only a few of these, a remnant, are still on earth. Christians who hope to live forever on earth look for spiritual guidance from members of this “congregation of the living God.” The Bible also refers to this congregation of 144,000 members by such terms as “the bride, the Lamb’s wife,” “the body of the Christ,” “the temple of God,” “the Israel of God,” and the “New Jerusalem.”—Revelation 21:9; Ephesians 4:12; 1 Corinthians 3:17; Galatians 6:16; Revelation 21:2.

  (Thus the non-anointed are not part of the Congregation of God then, the idea in the bible) There was a time that the Watchtower deliberately would say Jehovah's witnesses and their companions, that only the Israelites were called "Jehovah's witnesses" in the Old Testament and that only anointed (jw) are spiritual Israelites, thus not the great crowd.)