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how can cos & dos sabotage the organization and not come under the scrutinay of the service department?.
i'm sure there are many cos & dos that know the gb are liars but may be stuck in the work at the present, and so this thread is devoted to thing you can do to deliberately sabotage the control that the organization has over the friends.. while this threat has great potenial for humour lets see if we can share some ideas that double agents might use effectively.
We would always give a minimum of $50, and also gave to any visiting missionaries and Bethelites because we felt sorry for their lack of wages. We also felt we were doing our part to help in the preaching work since we couldn't be pioneers. We were always feeling guilty for not doing more, so we tried to help the ones that were.
Heck, all that, and all we ever got was an early yearbook every year from some Bethelites. LOL
i have a question that i'd like to get feedback for:
how does a person get their finances in order after leaving the dubs?
i've left the b'organization with my family intact.
Welcome, Temperate Warrior!
I completely understand where you are coming from in determining if it makes sense financially for your wife to work. We also have 3 children, and even though I had a good job (by luck), I wasn't really bringing home anything after figuring in for 3 kids. So we worked it out so that I could quit and stay home, and the release of stress for both of us is incredible. We watch our finances, and are quite content. However, it took us a couple of years to be able to do that, and alot of planning.
No more pulling the kids out of bed at 5:30 am to take them to their sitter at 6 am so I could be to work at 6:30 am. (Really hated that in Wisconsin winters.) I myself would be up at 4 am. By the time I would pick them up and drive home, it would be after 5 pm. Kids crabby and tired, I'm exhausted and crabby, still with dinner, baths, etc. Ugh! Absolutely no quality time. Throw 2 parents on opposite rotating shifts, and it added up to IMMENSE stress. I completely understand why you and your wife want to do this. It is working for us-everyone is happier.
here's an idea i thought of for those of us still associated with the jws and going in field service:.
1. write the url to this site, quotes, silentlambs, etc.
on post-it notes (little yellow sticky papers).. 2. put the post-it notes inside the folded portion of a tract, or first page of wt magazine.. 3. leave the tract or magazine at not-at-homes.. in the chance the householder peruses the litter-ature rather than trash it, they will see the note and possibly visit the referenced website.
This might work, but my family would never even open the magazines, just pitched them. They only took them to be polite. They would never had seen your message. But hey, that's just MY family.
Good luck!
jc = jesus christ but also judicial committee - any other unfortunate coincidences of this nature you can think of
Hehehe Richie, those are pretty good!
lets work up some good ideas that we can pass on to bethel workers, cos, dos, elders etc... can use to help them to start to find others in the org that know it's not the truth but are stuck inside for various reasons.
lets come up with some way of testing people to so as not to blow ones cover and remain hidden.
plans of espionage that could cause a major blow to the organization from those trapped inside, things like how co can give talks to really discourge the friends and cause them to doubt the organization, all the while it looks like he's are doing what the organization wants him to do.
Secret ring or bracelet? Hmmm, seems to me that the Masons wear their special signet rings. How ironic that would be! LOL!
about ten years ago i went to centre parcs in the uk and was surprised to find that loads of jws were taking a christmas avoidance holiday.
does this mass holidaying still take place ?
- seems kinda fun.
Here quite a few (read: in the right "cliques, as the entire congregation is not invited) would meet at the Holiday Inn in Stevens Point for Christmas Eve and Christmas Day. They really whoop it up.
If anyone mentions anything negative about it, they trot out the old "well, everyone has the day off, so we can all get together" routine.
There was one awkward time when an elderly sister, who had strenuously opposing husband and children, had happened to have their family Christmas in the same Holiday Inn! Still, it was quite embarassing for her to have to open presents with everyone from her congregation nearby.
in my opinion, the best way by far to beat the watchtower is to:.
live your life to the fullest.
follow your bliss.
I totally agree, frankiespeakin.
My husband is the type to just never speak about it again. Slink away, and let them get away with it, and subsequently the WTBS is allowed to ruin other unsuspecting people. I tell him if he does that, then he is an enabler, the same thing I accused our elders of in child molestation and their 2 witness rule. He is allowing this to happen to others when he is silent.
I, on the hand, want to live a good life, but will always be exposing the cult in every which way I can. He still has alot of deprogramming to do when it comes to not questioning "authority". I tell him that they have won if you don't let people know what they really are. There is room to live a good live AND expose the cult.
my sister found this article in a local newspaper and gave it to me.
seems that a whole group ot j.w.
's entered his house without permission.
In my area, there are a few old-timers (mostly men) that still put their foot in the door. I was apalled the first time I saw it. I was very pregnant at the time, and I think that is what saved us from the cops being called, since I didn't look threatening. My partner, after putting his foot in the door to stop it being shut, actually pushed his way inside and all but pulled me in, too. The woman looked absolutely terrified, as I would have been had total strangers just shoved their way into my house. I just wanted to sink into the cracks in the floor. I was absolutely ashamed to be there.
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i just noticed on another thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/92635/1.ashx a new poster by the name of barbie.. i hope that you will find the answers to all your questions here.
i understand your hurt and hope that you and your boyfriend find the happiness you are seeking.. miss peaches
Hello and welcome, Barbie!
