Posts by luna2

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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 5-8-05 WT Study (April 1, 2005 issue)

by blondie in

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(1 john 3:14, 18) parents, you do well to imitate jesus' love and patience, never giving up in your efforts to train your children.. children fail to respond to your counsel.

luna2

This is why I initially stopped attending meetings. The guilt trip became too much for my mental health.

Nothing you ever do is good enough. Its never the WTS. Hey, if something didn't work out that we encouraged you to do, we deny responsibility...it's your fault for misunderstanding what we meant. Study the publications more, make all the meetings, go out in service more, be sure not to allow yourselves or your children to enjoy anything or think anything or do anything unless we tell you you can, pray harder...oh and be sure to generously contribute to the worldwide work.

There is no joy in dubville, but don't blame us because ITS ALL YOUR FAULT!

Sorry. LOL I still have issues.

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Jeopardy = CT Russell and Russellites clue.... 5-may-05

by BrendaCloutier in

i think it was a double-jeopardy round clue.

it had to do with ct russells former followers who were known as russellites.

wanted to know what they are known as now.

luna2

Witnesses are good fodder for comedians too.

I specificly remember an SNL skit about the Land Shark where JW's were the punchline....Land Shark poses as delivery/salesmen type people to get young women to open their doors whereupon he eats them, this happens three times. The final young women gets a knock on her door and the voice identifies itself as a JW with Watchtowers. She's too smart to fall for that, grabs a bat or something to bash the LS with when she opens the door, and hits a Witness who falls to the floor, Watchtowers flying. Hahahahahaha...much funnier than actually hitting the Land Shark.

The joke that really got to me, though, was told by a stand-up comedian who's name I can't remember. He talked about JW's coming to his door, giving their spiel and concluding with "...but sir, don't you want to live forever on a paradise earth?" His response was, "Not if I have to live with people like you."

I agree, Terry, not much to show for over a hundred years of preaching door to door.

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Did U ever wonder - if the end was so close - why were we building Kh's?

by AK - Jeff in

i always wondered why we were not spending the money to build halls in remote and poor areas that needed them - but instead we would build new halls and sell old ones in places where we were seeing little growth.. every congregation in this area has built a new hall in the past 20 or so years.

yet the congs are the same basic size they were before.

most have had a least one major remodel since building new.

luna2

When I first became a witless the local KH was decorated in such a way that it didn't become outdated very quickly...in neutral colors that aged well. The circuit assembly hall was the same, not exciting, but just fine. Suddenly everybody was all hot to trot about redecorating the circuit assembly hall. They repainted, recarpeted, rebuilt the stage, got new curtains and who knows what else (I'm sure they updated the sound system and anything else they could think of). When they finished it was in shades of teal and mauve, like a giant bedroom. I couldn't understand why they chose such a strange color scheme. I know that only a couple years after I moved, they redid it again. Such a waste.

I moved to CT right about the time the congregation here was deciding about building a new hall. There was quite the debate about it. Older ones really questioned the need for a new hall and were worried about the unnecessary expense of it all. Of course, those voices of common sense and reason were out numbered, and the old hall was sold, land purchased and a quick-build soon set up. All very exciting. The new hall here was again decorated like somebody's boudoir: shades of teal and salmon pink. ...oh, and in the fever to get the building up in three days, corners were cut and mistakes made with the roofing so that there were problems with leaks in the ladies bathroom. There was mildew, ruined drywall and wallpaper falling off in strips. Nice.

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Radar blip sends Bush into shelter

by tijkmo in

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just heard about this on uk satirical news show....cant believe our friends across the pond didn't share it with us.

radar blip sends bush into sheltergeorge w. bush .

washington, april 28 (reuters): president george w. bush was hustled from the oval office and into an underground shelter yesterday after a blip on a radar screen was initially mistaken for an aircraft entering the restricted airspace around the white house, officials said.. .

luna2

I'm sure this was the appropriate response and all, but for some reason I look at everything involving this president as a bunch of bumbling. It's wrong to be so biased against him, I'm sure. Just can't help it. LOL

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Should JW's be trying to convert others to their faith?

by Rod P in

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if you think about it, what happens if one of the persons in a marriage gets converted to the jw religion, while the other one chooses not to believe?

or the husband is at work, and the wife gets to meet the jw at the door, has bible studies with them, gets converted, and then the husband wakes up one day and finds he is living with a jw mate.

what happens if a jw couple is out in the field service, and one gets converted to another religion, precisely as a result of doing the kingdom field service work.. in all of these instances, it results in a religiously divided home.

luna2

Most religions think they are teaching truth...or at least they start out that way....and are interested in gaining converts. I don't know if there are rules in any of them about refusing to let someone join because it might cause friction in their marriage.

All well-meaning dubs truly feel they are saving lives. What's a little marital disord when lives are at stake? Hey, maybe the newly converted one will be able to bring his/her whole family in, thereby saving them all! They think they are performing a service, doncha know.

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How do you feel about elders DF'g a child of 13 or 14 for being a willing v

by frankiespeakin in

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how do you feel about elders df'g a child of 13 or 14 for being a willing victim of child abuse?

luna2

she was disfellowshipped recently for throwing herself continuously at a certain young brother until she made him fornicate with her.

Sorry, Doubtfully, but that's just....wrong. Did she hold a gun to his head? Did she slip something into his Koolaid? Perhaps she used her super powers and took control of his brain. Dang!

I'm in agreement with whoever said that children shouldn't be baptized in the first place....Not that I think anybody benefits from disfellowshipping and shunning, but kids are traumatized even more than adults by it.

Kind of sounds like this young lady is either regreting her baptism or never truly understood what she was getting into.

As for the "willing victim of child abuse" that's a bunch of bullsh*t and I have very violent feelings towards anybody who would spew out such nonsense.

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Right/Left Brain test (quick and fun)

by Double Edge in

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click on the link to see how you can handle a quick test to measure your concentration ..... http://www.njagyouth.org/colortest.swf

luna2

Got 100% but the first couple words I had to struggle to disconnect the the impulse to read the stupid word and let it confuse me. LOL

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Watchtower Votes in United Nations Affairs

by Dogpatch in

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watchtower votes in united nations affairs

after clicking on each one of those symbols listed and matching under the (watchtower) name, the reader found u.n. resolutions with a vote of (yes) located beside the words (voting summary) in scans #4 and #6. scan # 4 listed a vote of (yes) u.n. meeting no.

scan #5. if we had clicked on the 2nd un symbol that was located back on scan # 3, then we would come up with this page, which shows another (yes) vote by (total voting membership) or 015---------see scan # 6 (this scan)------------then scan # 7 will show what was voted on (found by clicking on (full english text) see this scan and last scan # 7----coming after this one.. .

luna2

Very enjoyable to see how this played out among people with open minds who really are interested in truth.

Leolaia, I agree! I read that tripe and was disgusted. How dishonest! If I was still a dub I would have been embarrassed to make a return visit on anyone I placed that mag with.

When I was still in, I hated it that it was considered perfectly legitimate to deceive people this way.

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The Bible and Scripting

by purplesofa in

when i was a teenager i became familiar with transactional analysis.

it says we all have life scripts we live by.

here is some information i got from various sites online.

luna2

At the moment I have only a very imperfect understanding of what you are describing here, so my comments may be way off the mark. LOL

Oddly enough, I have been thinking lately (for the past week or so after having been awakened to the fact that being a JW was not what I thought it was) that all of the major decisions I've made in my life that have turned out badly may have partially been a result of trying to live my life like the stories I love to read.

The Wizard of Oz was huge for me as a child. The idea of a secret, magic place full of wonder and romance, that only a very few humans could enter with much difficulty and only for a limited amount of time (can't remember which book, but at some point the Land of Oz was made invisible and inaccessable to any humans that weren't already in residence) was very appealing to me. You can see the obvious parallels with the "truth" as put forth by the WBTS. Not to say that I looked forward to billions of non-JW's being exterminated forever at Armageddon, in fact, I hoped that some "new light" would be flipped on to sort of fix that horrible prophecy, but I can't deny that I liked the idea of being special and "in the know". Kind of sad, huh?

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Paula Abdul and Corey Clark - who believes or who cares?

by TresHappy in

i prefer the latter!

luna2

Me either, EvilForce. Never got into the show. I don't watch a lot of TV or keep up with Idol news so I didn't know there was a scandal surrounding Paula and this Corey person.

Last I heard about her was some stuff about her acting weird, people thinking she was on drugs, and her issuing some sort of explanation about a condition I'd never heard of before. Seems like she's getting more than her share of negative attention lately.